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AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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I genuinely hate decision theory. (awful.systems)
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Bit of a rant but I genuinely hate decision theory. At first it seemed like a useful tool to make the best long term decisions for economics and such then LessWrong, EA, GPI, FHI, MIRI and co needed to take what was essentially a tool and turn it into the biggest philosophical disaster since Rand. I'm thinking about moral uncertainty, wagers, hedging, AGI, priors, bayesianism and all the shit that's grown out of this cesspit of rationalism.

What's funny about all this is that there's no actual way to argue against these people unless you have already been indoctrinated into the cult of Bayes, and even if you manage to get through one of their arguments they'll just pull out some other bullshit principle that they either made up or saw somewhere in a massively obscure book to essentially say 'nuh uh'.

What's more frustrating is that there's now evidence that people make moral judgements using a broadly bayesian approach, which I hope just stays in the descriptive realm.

But yeah, I hate decision theory, that is all.

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[–] billseitz@toolsforthought.rocks 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@utterfiction @dgerard
"I have Bayesian priors
YOU have cognitive biases
THEY are toxoplasmotic SJW filth"

[–] sb@mas.to 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

@billseitz @utterfiction @dgerard followed by

“Bayesian means the ingroup can do no wrong and the outgroup can do no right, and the more gooder the ingroup and badder the outgroup the more Bayesian it is.”

savage and true. Now THOSE are how to end a blog post.