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An unofficial Refold community @ DATATERM.

This is a small part of the language learning community but all language learners are welcome as this applies to all languages!

What is Refold?

Refold is a method for learning to have an instinct in a language -- so, to be able to use it naturally to express your thoughts and ideas, rather than learning to translate like is taught in schools – Ben @ Refold (2023)

Refold uses immersion and exposure to the language to achieve that goal of learning a language. If you like binging Netflix and Youtube, reading novels or gaming, then you're in the right place!

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Links to Other Lanugage Communities: TBA

Rules of this instance: https://dataterm.digital/legal

Community rules: (I may add new rules at a later date but this covers it for now.)

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And IT WORKED! (Surprisingly?)

In this video I share my experiment of watching the same content over and over again a (stupidly) high amount of times to learn languages.

From what I experienced, this method absolutely works. While it may seem as if you can't really learn that much from a single 20 minute anime episode, the amount I learned/the things I improved at, honestly felt pretty surprising. I feel like the true potential of this method is unleashed if you were to do the same thing, except for many other pieces of content as well, not just one episode.

The main benefit from this experiment I feel is the ability to recall a large amount of words and reference quotes with their pronunciation from the top of your head, very quickly, as the anime almost gets stuck in your head, like a song you've listened to way too many times.

If anyone is interested in the Anki deck I made, here it is: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1626168555

Its probably best if you make your own cards, but this serves as an example of how I made mine!

Someone on the Refold course pointed out to me that the challenge to watch something 50 times was probably inspired by Livakivi so here's the video. Somehow this is a video that I'd missed. I'm currently trying something 10 times, I don't think I'd have the mental fortitude to do it more than that but we'll see.

Edit: This is on the extreme end of things and not something recommended by the official roadmap, atleast not this amount of reviewing.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40426

Getting started

To do this properly, you need to understand how those websites work.

For the shake of simplicity fellow "pirates", they utilize m3u wiki link

  • m3u8 99% of the time.

You will also need yt-dlp install it if you don't have already

Example on utilizing this knowledge
  • Go to your favorite streaming site
  • Simple press F12
  • Go to Network
  • Select XHR (XMLHttpRequest)
  • Filter URLs for m3u8
    • If you find more than one, just test them out, you will soon find the trick on your own :)
  • Copy the URL
  • Open a terminal and type yt-dlp <your-copied-link>

Do it Ethically

Some may call us pirates, which I find really cool

But the true evil Pirates/criminals are the ones that keep the power to themselves and don't share it with others

Information is the only true power, and it should be free(free as in free speech) for all.

Share your own tips & tricks in the comments if you want!

For educational purposes.

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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/139189

This seems like overkill to me, but Lamont is speaking very highly of this method. I personally rewatch movies extremely rarely, and the number of movies that I have seen more than once is very small, so the idea of watching one movie 50 times is rather nauseating.

I do, however, concur that re-consuming A/V media in an L2 is beneficial to me, as I noticed that I tend to struggle with correctly interpreting grammar the first time around.

50 times sounds quite nauseating to me too. Having watched his original Spanish livestreams I'm quite impressed. I might give it a go, though I think my limit would be 10 times before moving onto something new. I guess I could probably do Shrek or something for the memez, I watched the crap out of Shrek 2 when I was younger.

I recently revisited some episodes of La Casa de Las Flores and understood almost everything, it felt like magic. This was after intensively studying almost every episode of season one and revisiting the first episodes.

I think it would take me longer to study a whole movie, a few sittings at a time but once I've gone through it once I'd probably be okay to watch another 9 times. I might consider it as a small challenge, i have about 1600 hours to fill so doing something like this wouldn't be the worst, it might not be the best. If I try it atleast once, I may see if it's worth it or not.

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Glossika offers free online language learning for languages like #kurdish, #welsh and #catala.

It's a bit different from Duolingo, and the sentence choices and "at speed" audio listening comprehension exercises are very good.

@languagelovers #Language #LanguageLearning

Link to original post: https://infosec.exchange/@BradRubenstein/110561225613844432

Post by from @BradRubenstein@infosec.exchange

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Why is there such a disparity between techniques used in formal language classes versus those recommended in online communities?

For example, I've recently started tutoring ESL at my library (I have no credentials, this is just volunteer work), and the program runners have stressed repeatedly how important it is for learners to speak, and to start speaking early. I can see why this is practical: at least in the United States, it's very difficult to communicate with anyone if you don't speak English. So even a few memorized "tourist" phrases can help a lot.

But in the long-term, this seems to run contrary to what I've seen different online communities talk about- be it Refold, Steve Kaufman, Steve Krashner, Dreaming Spanish, etc. Most online communities seem to stress immersion and natural methods, prioritizing input/comprehension over output/speaking. Some of these folks even say that you shouldn't talk at all in L2 until you reach a certain point (though others say that it doesn't matter).

Is this a genuine difference in language-learning philosophy, or are the needs of "practical" learners just different than "hobbyist" learners?

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/181755

The German community I have made is exactly what the title says: A place for people learning German and German speakers to discuss the language.

If you are learning German and have any grammar questions, pronunciation questions, etc. this is the place to ask.

If you simply want to share your journey of learning German, this community is also the right place to do it.

Anything related to the German language belongs in this community. Feel free to join it, though note I am quite an inexperienced moderator as of now.

!german@lemmy.world

lemmy.world/c/german

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Video Description: Ben's language journey with Czech began a little over 50 days ago with a goal, a plan, and a post-it note he wrote it all down on.

The goal? To become fluent in 2 years. The plan? Well, he goes over that in this video. The post-it-note? Illegible

Long story short, Ben's goal is to spend ~1.5k hours of Czech in 2 years time, and then take a trip to the Czech Republic. He'll be documenting his progress along the way as he learns the language, so stay tuned.

Ultimate Immersion Course: https://m.refold.la/ultimate-immersion-course

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What is Refold?

Refold is a method for learning to have an instinct in a language -- so, to be able to use it naturally to express your thoughts and ideas, rather than learning to translate like is taught in schools – Ben @ Refold (2023)

Refold uses immersion and exposure to the language to achieve that goal of learning a language. If you like binging Netflix and Youtube, reading novels or gaming, then you're in the right place!

Videos About Refold:

Useful Links:


I am a learner myself, I'm not offcially affiliated with Refold but I have enjoyed it's various itterations throughout the years.