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[–] StringTheory 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

CBS dude rode on it and did an interview with the owner.

So many red flags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o&feature=youtu.be

[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Built with shit from Home Depot, controlled with a literal Logitech game controller, construction pipes as ballast... holy fuck, why would anybody agree to go 3.7km below the surface of the ocean in that deathtrap?

[–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Imagine paying $250k and the pilot pulls out the player 2 controller

[–] SevenSwell 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those Logitech controllers are actually pretty decent. I've had one for ages and it's still going strong.

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[–] Chrisosaur@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago

Hope the pilot tried ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️ start

[–] StringTheory 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Made out of a fiberglass tube (catastrophic failure) and titanium end caps (cracks) instead of steel.

“Steel is real.”

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[–] demvoter@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Wow, that is super sketchy. Now I am not at all surprised this happened. Hope that company has a shit ton of insurance.

[–] xxxfroggyxxx@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, I’ve seen so many Scientific deepwater vehicles that are thethered to the ship in some form. Why isn’t this thing hooked up to a cran yhat can get it back up if someone fails? I’d think passenger vessels should pass more rigurous safety standards than that.

Are they liable btw or is the “international waters” situation doing them any favor?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago

I seem to recall a point in that CBS video where they had to sign a waiver stating among other things that they acknowledged it was an experimental vessel that is not certified by or approved any regulatory agency, so, yeah. I don't know that I'd count on there being rigorous safely standards in that case

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[–] BobQuasit 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I find it strangely hard to care about the fate of a handful of multimillionaire tourists when hundreds of refugees died last week due to the indifference of the Greek authorities - and the media barely noticed.

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[–] ndr 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s sort of… poetic in a messed up way.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Only if the sub remains undiscovered for ~70 years.

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[–] TheOtherJake 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

...officials are working to get a remotely operated vehicle that can reach a depth of 6,000 meters (about 20,000 feet) to the site as soon as possible.

The 5-person submersible, named Titan, is capable of diving 4,000 meters or 13,120 ft. “with a comfortable safety margin,” OceanGate said in its filing with the court.

but...after looking up on Wikipedia

...a wreck that lies over 12,000 feet (3,700 m) below the surface...

[–] neuropean@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they’re advertising the depth limit of the recovery vehicle, not claiming that the wreck is actually at 20,000 feet.

[–] TheOtherJake 16 points 1 year ago

They probably need quite a bit of margin too if the craft accidentally got lost in a deeper area

[–] Lowbird 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might be best practice to use a vessel rated for considerably deeper than you actually go, in case of some problem in the hull?

[–] Lowbird 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And/or it's just a description of a particular vehicle they're bringing that was most convenient to get there quickly.

[–] Projectionist 12 points 1 year ago

It's not like they're going to say, "oh, don't bring THAT recovery vehicle, it can go TOO deep."

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Maybe they're concerned that it no-clipped through the sea bottom and wound up deeper than the Titanic's current location?

[–] great_meh@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What I dont get is that one of the passengers was a billionaire. He could have built himself the fanciest and safest vessel for a few Million Dollars with a whole naval operation attached. Of course thats a lot more than 250K but still nothing for a billionaire. These people are so out of touch and cheap its insane.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It goes to prove that billionaires are just as gullible as the rest of the people, all they had was just money and assets, it doesn't grant them wisdom or intelligence.

[–] StringTheory 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That much money must give you incredible hubris: up until this point you’ve never had a problem that money couldn’t fix (or ease) for you.

Unfortunately, you can’t bribe physics.

[–] the_itsb 8 points 1 year ago

I've never thought about it this way before. You've given me empathy for billionaires; thanks, I hate it!

[–] interolivary 8 points 1 year ago

Goes to further prove that it doesn't take brains to become a billionaire, I guess

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[–] TheLoneMinon@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This shits going to keep happening as companies continue to rush commercialization of "Extreme" Travel.

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[–] jherazob 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] StringTheory 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

https://newrepublic.com/post/173802/missing-titanic-sub-faced-lawsuit-depths-safely-travel-oceangate

This adds to the picture of utter recklessness.

At the meeting Lochridge discovered why he had been denied access to the viewport information from the Engineering department—the viewport at the forward of the submersible was only built to a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, although OceanGate intended to take passengers down to depths of 4,000 meters. Lochridge learned that the viewport manufacturer would only certify to a depth of 1,300 meters due to experimental design of the viewport supplied by OceanGate, which was out of the Pressure Vessels for Human Occupancy (“PVHO”) standards. OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the required depth of 4,000 meters.

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[–] TheLastOfHisName 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if I had a stupid amount of money, there's no way in hell I would pay someone to stuff me inside what seems to be an over-sized propane tank, then send me to depths where the water pressure is so extreme it will literally crush you.

Just...no.

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I particularly like the part where this specific submersible can't ever be opened from the inside, because it gets bolted shut from outside.

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[–] SaintLunatic@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

According to the article there is a metal eating bacteria that’s eating the titanic? And it the wreckage might be gone in a few decades?

That’s incredible

[–] Pumpki@toast.ooo 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now they probably have a new submersible to munch on...

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[–] intrnt@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It has 96 hours of life support, I have faith.

[–] ZapBeebz 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am hopeful, but not necessarily optimistic...if it lost power and descended below crush depth, no amount of life support is bringing them back.

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[–] Sooperstition@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who even has the vessels that can go deep enough to rescue them? This is the stuff of nightmares

[–] kingofmadcows@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gabe Newell, yes the owner of Valve/Steam, has an ocean research organization that owns a submarine designed to dive down to 10km, to some of the deepest parts of the ocean.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago

To be fair, even if no vehicle that could rescue it from the bottom is available, that doesn't mean that there is no use in a rescue mission if they don't know where the sub is. For instance, it could have surfaced but had it's communications lost, in which case they'd still need rescue, because based on a CBS video of the sub in question shared elsewhere on the thread, the thing doesn't actually have a hatch and just has the front taken off and then bolted back on afterwards to let people in and out, and obviously is going to be airtight given it's a sub and all.

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