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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If anything modern day santa is more of an invention of Coca-Cola than Christianity or Paganism.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Santa is the bringer of the New World Order

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t think an actual Jew would equate a religious symbol with a swastika

But I do agree that religious imagery should never be in public

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I don't think Santa = swastika but it is super tiresome when Halloween ends and suddenly there's Christmas shit everywhere. I know it's more a factor of capitalism than Christianity, but it even infects the meager Hanukkah end caps we get. There's frequently products being sold that are clearly just Christmas goods painted blue and white (argh) paraded around as Hanukkah goods. Fuckin blue and white pine tree tchotchkes? C'mon what the fuck is that? Hell, one year I saw "chocolate Maccabes" which were literally just chocolate Santa candies in a different foil.

It's all expected, it happens every year (though the holiday seems to take up more of the calendar each year), but damn is it tiresome. And don't get me started on the music!

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 hours ago

Or equate a santa hat to a religious symbol.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Wow I didn't expect so many religious people on Lemmy. Fuck christmas and every religious holiday. No special treatment for pale skins or anybody else. People are so indoctrinated into these rituals that they think it's "normal". Keep that bullshit out of my code please.

[–] Traister101@lemmy.today 18 points 12 hours ago

You don't have to be religious to think a fat dude in some red clothes that magically travels around the world giving out presents to good children isn't a fun yearly tradition. Frankly it's kind of an overdramatic reaction to a small red hat overlaid onto an icon. Should configuration be provided to disable the functionally? Sure I don't care, hell have it disabled by default I don't mind but it's stupid to make a huge stink about something so minor.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's true that Christians have killed more people and commited more genocides, and are obsessed with putting their religion in everything... I think I'm on the side of this guy tbh

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

Of course you are...

[–] Senal@programming.dev 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

As an organisation they have historically been and continue to be, truly shitty.

But what are you using for sources here ?

[–] millie 1 points 9 hours ago

Github, obviously.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

About Christians in general? History books. About Christians inserting religion into everything? Gestures vaguely at the USA

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What's more infuriating is that they immediately gave in and removed it without any discussion

[–] AlmightyTritan 2 points 9 hours ago

Ehhh better to be safe that have a discussion on religion and persecution in the issues board. Then it doesnt linger as an open ticket.

I feel like discussion about something like this is better suited for like a forum or a dedicated discussion channel. They discuss in a followup on the issue thread that they think even one offended person is too many, and they want to be as neutral as possible, which I think is commendable.

I think even if its a troll, its better to err on the side of "what if it is a real person, and they are offended." Obviously, this needs to be taken within reason, like intolerance is not a valid reason etc etc.

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Wait till they see the vlc logo during christmas ...

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly it switches to this logo during christmas

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 10 points 14 hours ago

Anyone else get the urge to pull the hat down?

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 151 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Christmas is no longer a holiday that honors the Christian god, it's a holiday that honors the god of capitalism, money.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Cool, so it's still worth eschewing /s

I would like to note though that xmas is a very sore time of year for a lot of people (mostly queer, but others too) who do not have a good relationship with their family

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 31 points 1 day ago

That's why I think it's important that we bring Christmas back to its true religious roots: Fertility, hunting, and maybe a cult of the dead.

Well, that and I just kind of want to piss off all of my pearl clutching relatives.

But seriously, thank you for the reminder that this can be a particularly hard season.

I hope your solstice is marked by good times with real friends and chosen family.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What religious symbol? Saint Nicholas had nothing to do with the fat guy dressed in red that coca cola made up. The hat is fine goddammit

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 22 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't capitalism a religion?

[–] josefo@leminal.space 5 points 16 hours ago
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] josefo@leminal.space 6 points 16 hours ago

I think you don't get it, modern Santa is so far away from his origins, at the point is not a christian figure anymore. I mean, christmas elves? A flying pack of reindeer? To me, is just a very happy and oversized leprechaun. Not very christian if you mind me lol. Not bad per se, but it's good to keep in mind christian symbols are different than this red hat.

[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 23 hours ago

Sing along kids! Mr. Ghosty the Christmas troll...

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 77 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And spawned an even longer shit fit.

Some people just want to be offended and we should simply let them.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Wait, did I read that correctly and they replaced the hat with a snowflake?? Hahahaha

And yes, people often forget that generally offense is taken. When it's intentionally given, it's pretty clear.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 10 points 19 hours ago

they replaced the hat with a snowflake?

As someone from the global south i find the snowflake in winter offensive!

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

Nice. Honestly, pretty well corralled, I would say.

Incidentally, I'm amused that one of the more popular responses includes the classic phrase

"Why can't we all just get along"

Which I tend to notice after having had it explained well to me once by someone with more empathy than my own.

I won't belabor it, but they pointed out to me that being tempted to say "Why can't we all just get along" is usually a sign that we haven't actually listened effectively.

So now when I hear or read "Why can't we all just get along", I see that [X] and hear the buzz from "Family Feud", and hear one of the Family Feud host kindly say "No points. Let's try again."

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 33 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Christmas is religion yes, but Santa doesn't really have anything to do with religion other than being on Christmas right?

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago

Yea, Santa is the more secular icon. There are even Christians that take issue with the Santa character (which is a combination of "Pagan" and Christian mythos). I put Pagan in quotes, as that's a Christian term for certain non-Christian beliefs.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Santa is a stand-in for Jesus... for children. They're both magical beings that can perform miracles and have similar methods: Both Santa and Jesus have naughty lists and forms of punishment that come later; much later (both are equivalent lengths of time to a child though 🤣). Both bring "gifts". Both have traditional appearances. Both have followers that wear silly hats and strange clothes. But most importantly...

Both are imaginary.

If you believe in Santa as an adult you're ridiculed. If you believe in Jesus as an adult you're just labeled, "Christian". Yet the fact that nearly every child eventually finds out Santa isn't real is quite disturbing to a lot of Christians. After all, if they could stop believing in Santa--who is so similar to Jesus in every way--then they could stop believing in Jesus.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You might not believe about what the Bible says about Jesus, but historically, there was at some point a person named Jesus. Whether or not he was like the Bible describes is another story. /lh

[–] Scary_le_Poo 1 points 8 hours ago

There were probably thousands of others named Jesus as well. What is this supposed to prove?

[–] riskable@programming.dev 3 points 15 hours ago

Historically, there were probably tens of thousands of people named, "Jesus" around that time. There were also loads and LOADS of people crucified by the Romans. If you were to make up a story and try to make it believable wouldn't you pick a likely starting point?

[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Santa is based on Saint Nicholas of Myra, so he definitely has something to do with Christianity.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 day ago

The modern depiction of Santa is based on Coca-Cola.

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[–] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

omg this is the person who deleted all their files on accident lol

edit: nevermind

[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

ghost is just GitHub's way of saying deleted user.

[–] TheV2@programming.dev 0 points 9 hours ago

Why is Github forcing this unscientific religious propaganda on us? If Github doesn't change this immediately, I will never ever delete my account! >:(

Lmao thanks for the info

[–] BurningTurtle@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Guess loosing his project didn't deter him from using vscode.

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

Ghost is github's way of referencing deleted user apparently. Different people probably

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I guess "ghost" is just placeholder for deleted accounts

In fact, in the issue they even refer to another username that doesn't exist anymore

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