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Just thought I'd share something I thought was pretty interesting. I have a mother in law who is... well let's just say she's a stereotypical older mom who doesn't own a computer, just an iPad. During the pandemic, she started getting into Nintendo games and bought herself a Switch. Fast forward a few years later and she's interested in getting a Steam Deck, since one of her "mom groups" told her about some pandemic inspired games, similar to Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing that are only available on Steam.

When it comes down to it, she doesn't care about her computer, she just wants to play computer games in a way that's easy and accessible for her. We'll be getting her a Steam Deck for her birthday, which in my opinion is just super neat. Even PC gaming is becoming extremely accessible, and it's a fantastic time to be a gamer.

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[–] boolean@kbin.social 216 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't love the pejorative "normies".

[–] some_guy@kbin.social 139 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s cringe af and totally reinforces the “gamer” stereotype. We can do better.

[–] GammaGames 90 points 1 year ago (12 children)

IMO it’s up there with calling people npcs

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

it's way up there with using 'cringe' unironically

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[–] loops 2 points 1 year ago

Unless referring to oneself. [me]

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[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

"We can do better" or worse "X do better" is more cringe.

It's just everyone judging everyone like they are worthless. Maybe people want to be part of the group maybe they have an identity with hardcore gamers. They don't need to do better that's their right.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Referring to any hobby group as "we" is cringe.

[–] some_guy@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What hobby group was I referring to exactly?

Because I don’t think gamers are a hobby group any more than tv watchers are a hobby group.

Or do you think maybe I meant “we” as a collective for the people in this thread?

🤔

[–] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

We can do better.

I'm guessing "wrong-sider" would be a step in the wrong direction?

[–] alyaza 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

it's definitely a weird term but in more than a few contexts (mostly very online contexts) i've found it to be the only suitable terminology because there's just nothing else which most of the people i talk to will "get" otherwise--it'd be nice to have something a little bit less embarrassing to work with, to be honest lol

[–] zuzu 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel like 'layman' would be the perfect word here

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I feel like ‘layman’ would be the perfect word here

without the artificial air of superiority

[–] can 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there's just nothing else which most of the people i talk to will "get"

The group here may be different from most of the people you talk to.

Try:

"the average person"

Or (mostly joking) "allistic"?

[–] alyaza 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

"average person" i'm afraid lacks a certain it factor--probably the ironic steeping in terminally online culture implied by even speaking it--that's implied by using normie. i find in many of these circumstances it just seems out of place also. in a semantic sense i'm not sure "average person" maps to "normal person" either, which is another thing

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah I'm not sure "average person" works the same.... maybe "median person"? 🤣

The 10% nerdiest people hold 90% of the nerdiness?

But yeah I don't think "average person" works, because it's not a wide enough range and doesn't include the opposite extreme end

"non-normies" is a very small group, in this context non-normies would be the most extreme gamers. The "average people" would not include a somewhat invested gamer, and it also wouldn't include someone who is heavily opposed to gaming, both of which would be included in "normies".

[–] Limeade 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think someone heavily opposed to gaming would be considered a normie, they would be in their own separate extremist camp also apart from the average person.

[–] Templa 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone alternative that been active in local gothic scenes I also use "normie" to refeer to people that do not engage with subcultures. I didn't even know it was considered pejorative until this post

[–] Radiant_sir_radiant 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just think of "normie" as the new "vanilla" - every group that uses it, uses it uses it to refer to people who are not a part of that particular group, so its meaning depends on the context but should be self-explanatory and not (necessarily) derogatory.

As a software guy I like the word for its simplicity and ease of use.

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[–] some_guy@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] snowbell 3 points 1 year ago

I cant even right now with this thread. There is nothing wrong with "normie."

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

I downright hate it.

[–] TimTheEnchanter 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Me either. I’m a “normie,” I guess, and it feels unwelcoming and condescending.

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