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Why YSK: People seem to, on average, think that a car takes a lot of fuel to start up. In reality, it takes on the order of a few millilitres of fuel to start an engine. That means if your car isn't equipped with an automatic start/stop system to stop your engine instead of idling, it saves fuel to turn off your engine and start it back up when you need it.

Caveat: air conditioning and radio might not work with the engine turned off.

Scenarios where this might be useful include waiting for trains to pass at rail crossings, waiting for food at drive-throughs, dropping off or picking people up on the side of the road when they need to load stuff, etc. May not be a good idea to use this while waiting at a red light because starting the engine does take time which would annoy drivers behind you when the light turns green.

Some cars are equipped with systems that will automatically stop the engine when you are idling for a while (e.g. waiting for a red light). If yours is, then manually turning off your engine will probably result in reduced fuel savings compared to just relying on the car to do it for you.

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (25 children)

Caveat: For cars not equipped with automatic start/stop, the starter and possibly the battery might not be specced for it so it could cause additional wear. Cars with start/stop systems often assist the process with precise camshaft position measurements and the ability to squirt fuel pretty much right away so the starter doesn't need to do as much work.

Also don't do it with a cold engine - it's better to get the oil up to temp faster, it'll also reduce fuel consumption as the engine heats up.

[–] kommanditbolag@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

When it's cold it can be beneficial to let the car idle for about 15 seconds before moving, to get the oils moving. They don't usually need much more than that, unless it's very cold of course.

[–] epyon22@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also cars will warm up faster driving around minimizing wear while engine is cold. Just don't stomp on the gas go easy on it

[–] kommanditbolag@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Indeed! It's a balancing act. It's good to wait a while right at start, but then it's better to go than wait on idle.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend long idling*, but I also wouldn't recommend shutting down the engine for short stops when it's cold. Just keep it running if you're stopping for less than 5 minutes.

* Where I live, the winters can get to around -30C, though normally it won't get colder than -25. You'll want to let your car idle for a few minutes because otherwise it's not going to be blowing any warm air at the windshield, and your visibility will be shit.

[–] kommanditbolag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. When you're down into those temps you've got to keep your car starting in a multitude of different ways if it stays outside anyway. But generally, just starting and rolling out instantly could cause wear. I'd not really say it's anything to be worried about though.

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