Welcome to the 'find out' phase, which should wrap up nicely by around the 7th.
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I’m out of the loop here, what happens on the 7th?
The 3rd party apps are closing at the end of this month, which means there'll be somewhere around a week or so of people realising just how bad the official app is, plus decreased quality content as the actually-motivated people who post things continue their gradual migration away from reddit and driving redditors to seek other places to gather.
Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.
Good riddance.
It's kinda funny in a dystopian way.
A lonely guy playing a creepy hentai game gets some sexual gratification from his time spent interacting with a piece of software and is at least somewhat self-aware. He knows it's just software, even if he 'married' his bodypillow.
Meanwhile there are increasing numbers of people unaware they're regularly interacting with bots online, not realising one of the reasons social media is making them sadder is because they've atttempting to fulfill their need for social interaction with a facsimile thereof.
It's not unlike Idiocracy, where they give the plants Brawndo instead of water, then wonder why the plants are dying. Vast swathes of the world are feeding their social needs with social media brawndo.
Conversational masturbation.
On the Internet, nobody knows you're a bot
Also you’re blaming the medium, rather than the malicious actors.
If AI text generative technology was around a century earlier you’d have people being penpals or print newspaper write-ins with a bot instead. Communicating through text is inherently risky, so best to blame the people who abuse that fact instead.
you’re blaming the medium
I don't think that's implied in the post. Also reddit inc is complicit in the bot farming since it boosts their engagement metrics.
Thats an interesting take on things
At some point, it will just be repost bots having conversations in the comments of posts "created" by other repost bots.
/r/subreddit_simulator wasn't just an experiment, it was prophetic.
Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.
How are they going to do that when the API changes hit? The API changes affect all third party interactions with Reddit unless you scrape their HTML or do some type of browser automation. I'm going to assume that 99% of developers are using the REST API since there was no reason to do otherwise. That means mobile apps, bots, third party tools and probably even some browser extensions are all going to go dark.
You can still use the APIs but you do it via a browser. So it is slightly more annoying for botters but a death blow for apps.
I just wish more people knew to come here. I even snuck this alternative into a presentation at a Fortune 150…
People will come, it's just a matter of time and having the patience to cultivate organic communities rather than trying to simply will them into existence all at once a la GooglePlus (or whatever their attempt at a social network was called)
like everything google kills it was the best of it's kind but wasn't immediately profitable so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It’ll take about a week for the ‘find out’ phase to wrap up, then we’re onto the lesser known ‘baby please come back I can change’ phase.
And like a gaslighting abusive ex they won't change!
total reddit death. TRD
goood!
Reddit behaved in such a horrible way, that I feel like API pricing was the least of the bad...
One could argue about their fairness and aim to destroy 3rd party apps, and I had already closed my accounts at that very step.
But the way they treated mods, forced subs to open and behaved like pure evil assholes, I really see how companies or more "official" subreddits with a touch of interest in their users, would feel the desire to leave and close bridges
I feel the same way.
As an Apollo user, I didn’t immediately leave since I wanted to see if some agreement would be done.
But the way they treated the devs is insulting, I work on IT and know a bit of how complex and time consuming this is; doing all this work just to be considered a parasite to be cut, and seeing how horrible the AMA was; really showed Reddit’s true colors.
Currently liking this federated initiative, big potential and less company ruining agenda. Very comfy here.
If Apollo works things out with reddit, I'd be willing to consider keeping reddit as a secondary source of content. But I think that bridge has been burnt so bad that that is highly unlikely
The Apollo dev (Christian) is understandably not interested in working with reddit at all at this point.
As an aside https://wefwef.app is a fediverse web app that's heavily inspired by apollo
Wow, if you're used to apollo, wefwef.app is surprisingly amazing! hard to believe its running in the browser
@albatross
@MsPenguinette @Pixelologist
Artemis, an app in development for kbin, is also heavily inspired by Apollo (hence the name also being a Greek god starting with A and known for their skills with the bow)
I didn't even use Apollo but the defining moment for me was when spez lied about his interactions with the dev. That shit is foul and I just do not want to associate with that.
Very much my experience. I used Relay for Reddit rather than Apollo (hadn't even heard of Apollo at the time), then learned about the entire debacle because that lie appeared in /r/quityourbullshit and that sent me to the AMA the lie was made in.
I went from not even knowing about any changes coming to Reddit to deciding not to give Reddit any more traffic until they back off and apologize in less than an hour. The blackout hadn't started yet.
By the time the blackout had started, I was already on both kbin and beehaw (well, I had applied to beehaw, approval might have been slightly after the blackout started) and the chances of getting me to ever use Reddit being above zero were already dependent on changes that no-one in Reddit leadership would ever accept, let alone come up with on their own.
I don't even care about the API prices and I used to use the official Reddit mobile app before migrating.
I've been looking for an open source Reddit like platform since the Twitter drama started and people started migrating to Mastodon, but there wasn't much content on them, until now, so I jumped on the band wagon.
They wanted out anyway, Microsoft wants control and they were using Reddit just like DJI is using reddit: they were a bit forced to follow. This is a perfect opportunity to leave and make the support happen on their own platform. Other big brands will be inspired and will leave reddit too.
the way I read it was that Minecraft is a community that holds the contributions of its base in high regard, and that's why they can't associate with reddit anymore because reddit now stands for shitting on its users and destroying their work instead of cherishing it.
hence the comments about recent changes introduced by management affecting the community and how that's the reason they feel reddit is no longer an appropriate place.
I mean, if that was their reasoning they should be leaving Twitter as well
You're not wrong, but it's an interesting point you bring up. They were willing to stay on Twitter with Musk's antics, but it seems like they aren't willing to put up with another Musk and another set of antics.
Minecraft dev here: support on Reddit was always more of a passion project for a few people and not a hard mandate.
Leaving reddit was the teams choice (I assume for the same reason some of you left, reddit went to shit).
Looking forward to seeing if this trend will continue with other game platforms; I know the r/GlobalOffensive subreddit spun up the @cs magazine on Kbin a while back, and I'm sure there's some others that are doing the same.
Holy shit! Good for them! Hope they see the benefits of the fediverse at some point.
SlicedLime, at the very least, is active on Mastodon. I'm not sure about other Mojangstas.
This comment right here truly made me realize how big mojang is these days, as I honestly have no idea who that is
isn't it just that one notch fellow or am I showing my age here
Showing your age :P Notch hasn't been involved since Microsoft bought the company.
we need to ask them to join fediverse
It's Microsoft, they'll probably try to move onto Teams and or SharePoint.
/s
Minecraft leaving it's a big one!
I wonder if other official subreddits will stop being official
He could come here. We have a nice Minecraft magazine with, well quite frankly very little content so far. But he is welcome to post updates here.