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[–] HappyMeatbag 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe I’m a dork, but I think“correlation does not equal causation” is actually a good thing to keep in mind.

I’m reminded of it every time a news story says something is “linked” to something else. I hate it when the word “linked” is used in this way. It’s often lazy journalism and/or a scare tactic. Saying that two things are “linked” implies a stronger relationship than may actually exist. I find it deliberately misleading.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 year ago

Almost everything on the picture is a good thing to keep in mind. But the creator of the meme depicted it as a thought of a soyjack so there is nothing can be done, we now should abandon that logic entirely.

[–] exponential_wizard@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

It's at its worst when a paper describes how they account for correlation or designed their experiment to confirm causation, but someone doesn't read the paper and says the line anyway.

You don't need to read the paper but don't try to act smart if you can't be bothered.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mostly agree with you, but it's often used as a phrase to shut down further discussion even when there could be an invisible third event that's the cause for the two seemingly unrelated events. It's gets over used by people who want to be quick to sound smart.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That phrase is used exactly to say that there is a third unseen force influencing both events. It'd be pretty strange to use that phrase to say the opposite.

Typically further discussion of the 3rd event isn't relevant, because they're not trying to find the cause, they're trying to disprove a hypothesis.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen it used to end discussions. People repeat the wisdom of the phrase without understanding what you just said.

[–] _danny@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

There could just be no connection at all. Like how there's a positive correlation between shark attacks and box office sales for Nick Cage movies. There might be some relation between them, but more likely there is no link and it's just random noise that happens to line up particularly well.

The reason why you might see it used as an end statement is because there is no data or clear logical link between the subjects which were correlated. It's basically saying "unless you have some reason to believe they're linked, you should probably assume they're not"

[–] Campi@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago

Just so I understand this correctly, is this a post mocking 20-something year olds by showing topics they believe to be niche, complex, or exclusive to an intelligent audience? And that by understanding these topics they are “propped up” compared to their peers?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

I don't see anything wrong with any of it. Why is thinking or speaking of any of those things being framed as a negative?

[–] raubarno@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago

That's popular science. On the one hand, it looks shallow, but that just shows that people are curious, and that's okay.

[–] AmoldyBuffalo@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, a lot of these things are good things to consider/know about. For example, you do always have to consider that correlation is not necessarily causation. They're not really considering the most deep of philosophy, but thinking is generally better than not thinking.

[–] ProfezzorDarke@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bet OP thinks that Ben Shapiro qualifies as "thinker"

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those people are in their 30s now lol

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuse me, but some of us are already in our fourties thank you very much

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elder millenials ftw! *high fives and then goes to sit down for a few minutes to recover *

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[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

That's agist prescriptivism!

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did they just like, throw a bunch of random philosophy bullshit onto a meme? Feels like this was generated by an AI or something lol.

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[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like you don't like thought so you make fun of those that at least try.

This sounds like the epidemy of weaponized ignorance.

[–] Gerbler@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's the joke, silly

[–] ShustOne@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me the meme is that most of these are the very tip of the philosophy and thinking iceberg. And that's fine. What's not fine is taking those basic concepts and trying to use them as defeaters for everything. I think this is what it's poking fun at.

[–] noodle@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly. It's taking the piss out off wannabe "deep thinkers" who've speed ran philosophy 101 videos on Youtube. Being well read isn't the joke. The joke is the neckbeards who have to smugly let everyone know that they read a Wikipedia article.

Ironically, this stereotype probably fits most of the ones who are kicking off. Hell, it's essentially a profile of me. 10 years ago I was that guy saying "hey have you heard about iambic pentameter?". That's why I laughed so hard lmao

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Being that kind of person isn't bad or a negative though, and framing being confident in having knowledge as a negative is what drives tyranny, discourages education and critical thinking, enables propaganda to be so effective, and destroys society.

That guy smugly bragging about reading a Wiki article could have legitimately never crossed it before and was genuinely excited in it for the sake of it, and here you are destroying legitimate intellectual curiosity just because society told you that was a no-no. Who's really more shameful?

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[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You're just projecting onto an image that has two people you're "supposed to dislike" and a bunch of words

[–] WanderingCrow@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

I'd rather deal with people who had a cursory understanding or passing familiarity of these things, in spite of some annoyance. Than deal with the proudly ignorant.

[–] doleo@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go ahead and post your intellectually superior topics.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 9 points 1 year ago

Why, the topic of our intellectual superiority of course!

[–] astrsk@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s Broden, Mark, and Zach from Auntie Donna

[–] BadEgg@lemmy.ko4abp.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This post would have gotten more mileage on Reddit.

[–] ProfezzorDarke@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

In the right communities, yeah, but lemmy is highly fragmented

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frankly, I think the Milgram Shock Experiment is more elucidating as to... hey, wait a minute.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

They triggered you like a dog with a bell, eh?

[–] Umbra@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I’ve got a buddy of mine who is an annoying maga type. Always telling me about Plato’s Cave and he’s definitely not on Reddit. Only thing is he is 40 and not 20 something.

Report for: i am in the picture and i dont like it

[–] hydro033@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

lol this is so painfully accurate, especially in internet culture where people feel inadequate in real life so they spend their time online wielding their swords of intellect.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the venn diagram with this and katana owners look like?

[–] GameGod 2 points 1 year ago

If your sword didn't come from a mall, it's not a real sword.

[–] ivereadalltheory 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank god I has this phase at 16.

[–] Didros 7 points 1 year ago

Thank someone you had the phase at all.

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot "logic" and "mushrooms" 🙄

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[–] tsp@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I‘m in this picture and I don’t like it…

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

what if we live in a simulation

Matrix (1999) was way ahead of you. Other works of fiction as well.

[–] Stuka@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

People in this thread take themselves wya too seriously

[–] monsterlynn@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

@VirginChad Nae true Scotsman is missing.

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