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Problem: I'm being driven mad by voices speaking to me thru white noise. Need white noise to sleep

Psychiatrist today suggested:

  1. normal human speech has typical rhythm, cadence
  2. fans, white noise audio files are always looped, rhythms in it
  3. brain is hearing those patterns as human voices
  4. I need to introduce staggered rhythms to disrupt

Possibilities:

  1. Willie Nelson, William Shatner speak with atypical cadence. Play at same time as white noise
  2. phone app that vibrates atypically
  3. machine in room that generates atypical rhythms, vibrations

Options, ideas? I'd like not to go further insane

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[โ€“] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Idk about staggered cadence, as that kinda sounds like overengineering a solution to me. But when I'm having trouble sleeping because of thoughts racing in my head (AuDHD, common problem for me), any audio with human speech is pretty good at disrupting that. My go-to is softly spoken ASMR videos, but I've also fallen asleep watching chill cartoons like Futurama and 90s Batman. I've also had it work with audiobooks but this is suboptimal because then I lose my place.

My theory is that it works because my thoughts are like a voice in my head being spoken by my internal dialogue, and it's hard to hear two people talking over eachother. So introducing another voice occupies the language-processing part of my brain and therefore blocks my ruminating thoughts.

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So far, new ideas are Buddhist podcasts, asmr videos, futurama and 90s batman. None of which I'd consider on my own. Thank you, internet, for randomly specific variety!

[โ€“] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

If you really want a "staggered cadence", try listening to all of the above at the same time. I'm sure it will create a relaxing soundscape for sleep!

[โ€“] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

Kind of funnily the welcome to nightvale podcast is what I listen to when I'm having trouble fallimg asleep

[โ€“] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I use TMSoft's White Noise which runs on most platforms, or stream. It has plain white noise, yes, but it also has a wide range of other sounds that you can use (brown noise, railroad, city street, stream, etc). You can also upload your own sound, get sounds/mixes from other users, or make your own mix.

My personal mix has a mild background of pink noise, with both a thunderstorm and some rain mixed in: the pink noise filters out common background, the rain helps with masking as well, and the thunder helps me sleep through bass sounds like lawn mowers and trucks.

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Yes! Exceptional nerdy tech. Thank you

[โ€“] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Dunno about staggered cadence but when I've been hearing voices I've found listening to very boring Buddhist dharma talks on podcast to help. They block out the voices and the dull, drone of the bikkhu lulls me to sleep.

Worth a try?

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Very specific, wouldn't have considered Buddhist podcasts. =) I'll try to find some.

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

By the way: I read your comment about hearing voices. I've heard voices since childhood, was minor, infrequent. But recently stress, trauma I was having hearing voices all the time, speaking clearly. Persecution, terrorizing. Felt like I was going insane

[โ€“] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why not just a second white noise, or other white noise adjacent sound? Even if they're both looped they're not going to have the same loop length and that will be a changing rhythm that way.

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Been listening to combo of three audio files, white, pink and grey noise to block out all frequencies. 2 are youtube videos, and designed white noise loop I created in a sound editor program .

No matter how varied each sound source is, even in combo, there will be pattern variations that become predictable on repeat.

Kinda like how fremen walk on the sand in dune. Have to walk with no pattern, to not attract sandworms.

[โ€“] neidu2@feddit.nl 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For some reason, listening to Knowledge Fight helps me sleep

[โ€“] Schaedelbach@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's like falling asleep while two friends are talking on the other end of the room.

[โ€“] neidu2@feddit.nl 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Plus Dans voice was built for lullabies.

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

That remind me: Gary Stadler lullabies I listen to. Very good. So new options, yes

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Man, so many podcasts are awesome. Ty

[โ€“] the_frumious_bandersnatch@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's podcasts like Sleep With Me that occupy the same place as white noise.

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Sleep with me. Never heard of that podcast, will check it out

[โ€“] getoffthedrugsdude@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if it's what you're looking for, butI have a free app called White Noise lite (Android) that let's you 'remix' multiple white noises by combining them. You can add up to 5 different noises at once, with customized settings that include variance. Here's some shots of what that looks like in the app:

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Perfect, free even better. Will definitely look into that.

[โ€“] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Ocean sounds don't exactly have a specific rhythm, and are a popular white noise that people have used to go to sleep.

[โ€“] 31415926535@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Update 2 days later: Many useful comments. I now have text doc filled with apps, software, podcasts, etc to research, try out.

This posted question was weird, obscure. Could've been ignored, ridiculed. Barely slept in 4 weeks cuz hearing voices. Desperately hoping against hope.

So, small group of random internet strangers taking question seriously, offering constructive solutions instead of ridicule? You've helped a lot. Thank you.

[โ€“] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago