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[–] EdibleSource@lemmy.ml 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Being born into a rich western country.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, me too. I pat myself on the back for this one nearly every day. Probably the best financial decision I ever made.

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[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Underrated answer. Meritocracy is a lie, folks, even within the West. If you do everything perfectly you will climb a little bit, and only on average. All the counterexamples you're thinking of are people who won a lottery of some kind. And of course, birth is also a lottery.

[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 49 points 10 months ago (3 children)

A literal move actually. 20 years ago I moved from America to a country with universal health care. That has saved my family probably close to a quarter million bucks in health care fees alone.

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 34 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Most of the things mentioned in this thread are mostly dumb luck and not necessarily active financial decisions.

[–] chahk 17 points 10 months ago

Kind of the point. A lot of financial "success" is nothing but dumb luck.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If there was an active financial decision you could make and reliably get rich, everyone would do it.

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[–] JamesBean@kbin.social 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
  • Not having a car (always living/renting in walking or biking distance of my work)
  • Moving in with my partner straight out of college so we could split expenses
  • Moving (with partner) to a low-cost-of-living city for the first 5 years after college
  • Putting most of my medium-term and long-term savings into low-expense-ratio, passively managed index funds starting in my early 20s
  • Buying almost exclusively second-hand clothes, furniture, and cookery
  • Borrowing all desired books (and many desired movies and TV shows) from the library
  • Only buying games when they are bundled or otherwise on steep discount years after release
  • Pirating any other media in which I'm interested if its distributors make it even remotely difficult for me to buy it at a reasonable price
  • Planning all dinners in advance every week before grocery shopping (leads to almost never eating at restaurants or ordering takeout, and almost no food waste because grocery list is based on actual meals)

Now, if I had to choose the best financial move out of that list? Probably the index funds. Though not having to pay for a car (or car insurance, or car registration, or car repair and maintenance, or parking, or fuel) is a close second.

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[–] TheOlympian@kbin.social 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

In 2017 my landlord raised my rent from $1k to $1100 a month for the place I rented with my daughter because I finally broke down and got her a dog. I was annoyed because this wasn't in the lease but I was month to month by this time and figured I could probably get a house around me for the same cost and at least I'd be building equity. I closed in 2018 on a $120k fixer upper on 12 acres. I got a $30k rehab loan and my mortgage/insurance/property tax payment ended up being just over $1100. I spent 7 months in major renovations.

Fast forward to today, I have a 2.875% mortgage rate with just over $1000 a month all in payment (early COVID refi saved me about $100/month), my house was just appraised for $415k, and I was able to sell 5 acres of the land for a total of about $160k.

A free shelter dog ended up turning $150k into $575k. 10/10 would recommend.

[–] Original 4 points 10 months ago

Life changing circumstances, but big props on you for having the confidence to go through with it! Life presented you with the opportunity and you seized it!

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[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Leaving Sydney for a cheaper quieter life in Central West NSW!

Nice 4 bedroom home with views, 1200m² block with trees, quiet area, school almost across the road, close to everything else and best of all, a tiny manageable mortgage!

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes! Particularly if your job is industrial, get a house somewhere else, but not on the city. Try to find a place with good public transport to the city, tho. Cities will be slowly quitting car infrastructure.

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[–] amzd@kbin.social 22 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Deciding not to get a car; it saves ~400.000 euros in my lifetime which at 40k net a year income means 8-10 year earlier pension

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, European public transportation. Not an option in the US unless you live in NYC and rarely leave the city.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As 2023 was beginning I set a goal that I would have $5k in the bank no matter what.

Up to this year I’ve been living paycheck to paycheck. But resolving to save up $5k pushed me out of that for the first time ever.

I never did hit $5k. But I stopped living paycheck to paycheck. I haven’t checked my balance before paying rent since february of last year. I always have enough, and I just pay the bill.

[–] Original 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The amount of stress that immediately goes away when you are able to stop the paycheck to paycheck cycle is priceless. Nice work!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

It also helps that I’ve got a little financial system going.

I get paid every two weeks. My rent is about 1200. Each paycheck is about 1200 - 1400. Paid every two weeks. Each paycheck, 1000 goes into my “bills” account, and the remainder into my “spending” account. So each paycheck I get about $300 for groceries, coffee, entertainment, whatever.

All the bills are on auto-pay to draw from that bills account, and the 1000 per paycheck is enough to cover all my bills plus save some. So my savings is accumulating in the bills account.

I also got myself a credit card for the first time in twenty years, and now my phone bill’s being auto-paid from that, with the CC being auto-paid from the bills account.

That structure helps too. But I wouldn’t have been able to start it without a lump of cash on hand

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mined a Bitcoin in college.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 8 points 10 months ago

Pretty much the same. Bought some Bitcoin in high school in the early 10's. It was just a novelty and I was a kid, so I didn't buy much, but if someone was kidnapped or something it would be worth it to go through my old drives.

[–] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago

Working with my SO to start budgeting each month. We now have a system in place that works for us and a habit of getting out in front of expenses.

Budgeting helped us see that increasing your income is far more powerful than reducing spending, so we’re focused on spending to gain skills and increase our top line right now.

[–] HumbleFlamingo 13 points 10 months ago

Vasectomy like 10 years ago. Kids are expensive.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Accidentally buying a modest house in what at the time was a "distressed" neighborhood because it was all we could afford. 15 years later the neighborhood has been gentrified and is highly desirable. The property has tripled in value and the land is now worth more than the house itself.

Anyhow, it was dumb luck on my part and again, mostly had to do with the place being affordable and relatively close to my wife's parents.

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[–] sh00g@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
  1. For the first few years of my career after college which has a pretty generous 401k company matching scheme I put the maximum amount possible into my retirement accounts and lived well within my means to build up a nest egg. Now that I am married I have dialed back my investments so we can afford to live a little bit nicer with the knowledge that we have a really great start in our retirement accounts.

  2. My wife and I moved in together two years before getting married. This made living substantially cheaper for both of us and made us positive that we wanted to live together and could tolerate each other prior to tying the knot :).

  3. I got a vasectomy mid-last year. My wife and I both agreed long before marriage that we only want to adopt. Adoption is obviously very expensive, but now we have the peace of mind of knowing we have full control over when we start to invest in that process to expand our family. No "accidents" can happen which is very liberating.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 11 points 10 months ago

It was accidental.

So I started working at a startup right after I graduated college. They couldn't pay a competitive wage, so they gave me a ton of stock. A year into working there, about half the company was laid off. I survived. They begged us not to leave the company by giving us more stock. I started interviewing elsewhere, because I have bills to pay, but I never got any other jobs. Then one day they handed me an envelope. It contained paperwork for even more stock. I thought it wasn't going to be worth the paper it was printed on, so I kept looking for other jobs. Never found one.

Well, a few years go by and the company starts doing very well. Then we got bought out. Suddenly all the worthless stock they gave me was worth a fuck ton of money. The buying company bought ALL of it. Even unvested shares. One day they wrote me a really, really big check, then I went and bought a house.

It was absolutely life changing, and I tried to throw it away at every chance I got. I got so lucky.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Starting investing into index fund ETFs

I only started about 3 years ago but even if I stopped putting in more money right now it would still keep paying me interests around 2000 to 3000€ each year for the rest of my life and it's 100% passive income. In my case it's all invested back into the funds though.

The second best move was starting to track my finances. It's almost impossible to not change your spending habits once you actually see where all the money is going. Almost anyone can cut atleast 100€ a month from their grocery bills by just being a little more mindfull about what you buy. That's 1200€/year or 12k€/10 years.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Almost anyone can cut atleast 100€ a month from their grocery bills by just being a little more mindfull about what you buy.

Yeah no. I spent about 150€/month on groceries before, now after the inflations about 180€/month. The only way to safe 100€/month there would be to skip meals.

From what you write you seem to be in the top 1-10% of people by income, and the numbers you put out only work for people in the same priviledged situation.

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[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Securing a long-term fixed rate mortgage just before the war in Russia. Other than that it’s basically been any time I saved money rather than spending it.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 13 points 10 months ago

Nitpicky but where in russia is a war going on? You mean the russian attack on ukraine right?

[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm in the States so dunno how this translates... But my parents made get a 500usd limit credit card when I was like 14. It had been the best decision that I've made. My credit is so dn good now that I can get what ever I want easily approved. That and they insisted I make a home purchase at like 23- right be fore the mortgages went nuts. My mortgage is like a quarter of what others pay for a rental...

Thanks ma and pa 🤜🤛

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Buying a house during covid when I saw rent was increasing drastically for no apparent reason. I could barely afford it at the time but thanks to inflation and a couple raises, I'm comfortably sitting on a house that's now worth 50% more than I bought it for, and paying way less than current rental prices. Rent is insane right now.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Move abroad, halve my taxes, triple my income, reduce my cost of living by nearly 80%, effectively increased my savings rate by ~1100%, from 500 EUR/month to now >5k EUR/month. That's 5k in fixed savings (investment plan), plus whatever else I don't spend accumulates in my savings account.

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[–] Kraiden@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] nis@feddit.dk 5 points 10 months ago

That's not how it works. At least not if the vasectomy is done correctly.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Selling my home, car, boat and living a simple RV life without kids. Forget the financials, the lack of stress has made it so very worth it!

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[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago

I bought gas before it went up $0.30/gal

[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Getting a master's in electroacoustic music. Everyone told me I was going to stay poor forever, I decided to still do what I really wanted and it's going pretty well.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 5 points 10 months ago

Changing jobs instead of showing loyalty to employers who couldn’t give two shits when it was time to let me go.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago

Making a budget and sticking to it every month. I am able to save 17% of what i make and put it into Monero to avoid it getting eaten by inflation.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago
  1. No kids
    2 Studying
[–] SecretPancake@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Using a budget manager (YNAB)

I’m really bad with saving money and even having enough ready for regular bills on my own. I was always on zero before the end of the month and struggled hard when there was something unexpected. Now everything is planned ahead, I have some savings and yearly expenses are just ready to pay when needed.

It needs some time to adjust to it and I had to restructure my categories a few times until it worked for me (still not perfect).

Though I don’t feel like I’m getting my money’s worth anymore from YNAB. It keeps getting more expensive, the updates are slow and it seems very US focused. If I ever find the motivation, I want to build something on my own (I’m a web developer from Europe who’s getting a bit tired of web developing)

[–] nis@feddit.dk 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I tried YNAB once. Wasn't thrilled about the price as well. Now I'm looking at selfhosting an instance of Actual Budget.

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[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Pea666@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is a great move generally. I’ve never bought a new car in my life and I generally buy other expensive stuff used as well. I’ve only ever bought a couple of new guitars for example and I’ve found it’s not worth the upcharge over used.

Boardgames and video games are nice to have new but most of the time the people I buy them from have been super careful with their stuff so you hardly notice it’s been used.

Same thing with clothes. People buy so much shit that they hardly (if ever) wear it before selling it on. I’ve bought Chucks with the tags still on for half of what they’re sold for in retail. Same thing with jeans.

Also it’s generally better for the environment to buy used.

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[–] OurMoneyIsBroken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago
[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Studying hard on my first year university. My GPA started high so I had a bunch of scholarships and grants. It's easy to maintain a high GPA than to bring a low GPA to a high level. I religiously apply to scholarships and grants also. I paid maybe 1/4 of my tuition fees.

Things to note:

  • My 4 year bachelor degree in healthcare only cost $25,000-30,000 including books.
  • The gov't even gives 60% back of tuition paid as tax refund every year until the gov't party changed a few years after I finished.
  • Also gov't gives out cheap educational loans especially for low income families back then.
  • Not in US.
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[–] AlmightyTritan 4 points 10 months ago

In life it's been mostly pure luck, but one of the few things I really recommend is to keep in the loop about rebates, programs and services offered by my federal and provincial government. Stuff like rebates on first time home buying, electric bikes, and energy efficient equipment is nice cause I bet I saved at least 3000$ total.

In recent time tho the biggest one has been getting a bicycle. I got an e-bike but even a regular bike helped me stop paying through the nose for gas when I was just burning it mostly sitting in traffic.

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