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You mean the thread where you out of nowhere called the maintainers "incels, transphobes, and racists" over singular instance of them using "he/him" as a gender-neutral pronouns in documentation and refusing to change it?
Bringing this topic back up here in this manner is really inappropriate.
Both threads appeared on my feed near one another and I figured it was on topic given that the other one is directly referenced in the main post here. If OP can reference another post to complain about hate, I think it's fair game for me to truthfully add that their conduct in the very same thread was also excessively hateful - how else are we to discuss the main subject of this post at all otherwise?
Two wrongs do not make a right. Ad hominem is not a discussion.
This isn’t about establishing a right, but providing information on a possible path out of the hatred: self reflection and self improvement, to start with one’s own hatred.
It’s the most reliable path out, because a person actually can change themselves.
See this post? This post is what I'm talking about. This is weird.
When I created an account here, I thought Beehaw is specifically a platform where throwing vitriol unnecessarily is discouraged.
Non-native speaker being stubborn about not using "they/them" in gender-neutral contexts (especially when most if not all of these weren't even about people) is not enough to label them as neither incel, transphobe, nor racist.
Intentionally mischaracterizing other human beings and calling them derogatory names that they don't deserve is, in my opinion, against the spirit of the platform.
I'm not intentionally mischaracterizing anyone, or for that matter unintentionally mischaracterizing them.
My takeaway from reading the post and looking at their comments on Github is that the developers have a disdain for women, a disdain for trans folks, and a disdain for anyone who doesn't look like them. They do not want to have to think about anyone else at all, and they make it very clear.
I don't know what to tell you other than go read it yourself. If you don't come to the same conclusions, we're probably very different people who see the world very differently.
Personally, when I see the kinds of responses yourself and others have made to that topic of discussion, it feels to me like you haven't actually done any of the reading.
I have read the blog post that you've linked, which is full of exaggeration.
The developer rejected PR that changed documentation to use one instance of they/them instead of he/him, responded "This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics.", and then promptly got brigaded. Similar PRs were appearing and getting closed from time to time.
A satirical PR has been opened and closed for being spam - despite the blogger's commentary, it's abundantly clear that the developer didn't call the person opening the PR a "spam" (what would that even mean?).
The project also had code of conduct modified, probably due to the brigading, to essentially include the aforementioned "not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics or religious beliefs" line - I don't know what part of this is for the blogger a "white supremacist" language.
From what I can tell, this is all they've done. No racism, no sexism, no white supremacy. Would it be better if they just accepted the PR? Yes. Does it make the developer part of one of the worst groups of people that ever existed? No.
If you want to discuss the merits (or dismerits) of the Ladybird dev, I ask that both of you please keep it in the other thread. You're getting off topic here.