So if I’m forced to argue with them, I make sure I’m the one having fun.
I can respect that. If they've proven themselves to be ignorrogant, there's no reason to get all flusterfucked trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I've dealt with enough people who use trolling as their primary debate strategy that I guess I got shit-triggered. Apologies, friend, for assuming the worst.
I honestly can't imagine any movie being as perfectly terrible as The Room. It gets even better when you start to look into the director/lead actor/writer/producer, Tommy Wiseau. I'm fully convinced that he's either D.B. Cooper or an alien. Maybe both.
this seems to be mostly a Right wing attitude
Let's not make this political. Right wing and left wing are still part of the same bird. They used to move in harmony, balancing each other, but for the past few years, those wings have been either attacking or ignoring each other. The eagle is in free-fall, and it's mindsets like this that keep it from course-correcting.
But what about the children? Won't somebody please think of the children?!
I'm the offending commenter, the "victim" of @Antik's antics. I certainly took no personal offense to a stranger calling me a silly name on the internet, but I do agree that such actions should not be normalized, simply because ad hominem attacks add nothing to a conversation and only serve to derail what could otherwise be a healthy discussion.
So, @Antik, I don't agree that you should've been banned, but you clearly showed an unwillingness to have an honest, open discussion, and that is most likely why you were hit with the banhammer.
Sounds like this is more of a debate about semantics. "Whataboutism" is a recently-popularized term that doesn't have a concrete definition yet. You see it as a tool to escape a debate by diverting attention, but I see it as a tool to highlight hypocrisy while continuing a debate. Really, I guess what matters is context - specifically, whether one is attempting to debate "in good faith" (another recently-popularized, inconsistently-defined term).
I certainly don't know you or your personal relationship with your dad. He doesn't sound like a great debate opponent, but to be fair, neither do you. Most people aren't nowadays, sad to say. Somewhere between Trump and Biden, people forgot how to wait their turn and debate the idea, rather than the person. It takes two to tango, they say, and it's becoming increasingly difficult to find two individuals who are able to set aside their egos and listen in earnest to opposing beliefs.
I guess I'm a bit biased. 2020 turned me into a misanthrope. 🤷
Never said they were. But they are both inescapably corrupt any beholden to their corporate masters. Democrats are just better at pretending to care about social issues.
A vote for either party is a vote against progress.
Right, you're a pro-fluoride ~~nutjob~~ ignoramus.
If you spent even five minutes reading about it, you'd understand that fluoride has no proven benefits when ingested, but several proven adverse reactions.
Being a ~~republican~~ first-party voter. Sure there are some educated grifters who decide to label themselves as republican or democrat, but your average ~~republican~~ first-party voter is ~~a mouth-breathing fucking idiot.~~ terribly misinformed.
FTFY
Honestly, in your example, you sound like, as you put it, a dumb cunt. The purpose of "whataboutism" is to point out hypocrisy in your debate opponent's position. Your dad pointed out that a politician on your side did something equally deplorable to the one you'd called out on his side. Rather than respond to that and have a reasonable conversation about the nuance and differences between your chosen politicians, perhaps coming to better understand each other, you chose to devolve to nonsense, intentionally killing the conversation.
That screams poorly educated (but possibly with an expensive education that makes you feel superior enough that you don't bother to question yourself and your ideals).
This has been the Democrat strategy for a long time now: make wonderful promises they don't intend to keep, then blame everyone else when they don't come to fruition. People keep voting for them despite this obvious fact, because Republicans make terrible promises that they actually try to keep.
We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The only winning move is to ~~not play~~ flip the table and play a different game.