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China has lashed out at Germany after its foreign minister called Xi Jinping a “dictator” and summoned Berlin’s ambassador for a dressing down, in the latest flaring of tensions with a western democratic power over how the Chinese leader is described overseas.

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[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 148 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you change the rules so you can hold office longer than permitted in an authoritarian country that is an appropriate label for the dictator.

[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago

Yep and other rules

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 112 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Very noticeable that they didn't specify how he wasn't a dictator, nor what other label would be more appropriate.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 60 points 1 year ago

"I am not a dictator! Anyone who says I am will get jailed!" - Grand Poohbear of China, 2023

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

Maybe she should've used the chinese word for dictator.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 95 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whatcha gonna do, China? That's right, nothing. Stay mad forever 😂

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's gonna cope...and seethe.

[–] NotTheOnlyGamer@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago

When the shoe fits, start wearing it. PRC is an authoritarian state led by a dictator and his cronies.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well that just goes to prove her point. Well done, Xi.

[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Overacting insecure jerk what Xi is

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[–] TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Most dictators haven't gone by that term, preferring instead some other executive role like chairman, supreme leader, or president. If Xi doesn't want to be called a dictator, maybe China should start holding open elections, see how popular the CCP really is.

[–] clutch@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Open elections when there is only one party in practice are moot

[–] float@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Tbh, with only two it's not too much better either.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Most forced elections haven't gone by that term, preferring instead some other description like people's elections, free elections, or secured elections. Made up words but you get the idea.

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[–] nocteb@feddit.de 44 points 1 year ago

Easy fix: don't be a dictator.

[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously he's not a "dictator", and that foreign minister should be sacked. Because Xi is a "supreme almighty emperor whose words are worth to be enforced or else..." A bit of background knowledge is never a bad thing.

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[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 year ago

Germany is right

[–] Rentlar 36 points 1 year ago

The same government that presented another deal so good you couldn't refuse!

Trade offer meme on the Meng Wenzhou incident

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Dictators were never good at hearing the truth.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

Have you tried not being an authoritarian PoS, Xi?

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

Quit being a dictator. 🤷

[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PeWu@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Now they have (at least) two W's on their account

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He's not just a dictator, he's also a dick.

What's he going to do? Fling his pooh?

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[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago

Their unhealthy coping mechanism is making it worse obviously

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

In China, the people directly elect local council (e.g. village or town level) representatives. Those local council members than select who among themselves to send to represent them at the next level above. This continues all the way the National People's Congress and the Standing Committee.

This sort of organizational structure is more-or-less how political parties in Germany also work; so by that logic the Green party itself would presumably be an undemocratic institution.

OK, but the CPC can control who is allowed to run in elections, right? Well, Germany banned its communist party: In Germany, any organization (and their members) that wants to abolish the liberal order, capitalism, private property and so on is subject to repression, surveillance and outright bans, and this is enshrined in the constitution. So no fundamental difference there either: In Germany the liberal institutions decide who can and cannot run, and they have decided the commies are out.

Empirically, the Chinese government enjoys way better approval rating than any Western government, Chinese people believe themselves to be living in a democracy, and the Chinese administration seems way more responsive to the actual needs of the people, what with the poverty reduction and all. How is this possible if they're so much more undemocratic than Western liberal democracies?

[–] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Germany the liberal institutions decide who can and cannot run, and they have decided the commies are out

Back in 1946, it was decided that antidemocratic parties shouldn't be part of a democracy. Hence antidemocratic parties are illegal.

That's it. You are very much allowed to abolish private property if you wish to do so. You'll just have to do it in a democratic manner.

And it just so happens that abolishing private property is very much not a popular idea.

(No, the current German government can not decide who can run in elections.)

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

He's still an authoritarian cunt.

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[–] Guildo@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“The remarks made by Germany are extremely absurd, seriously infringe on China’s political dignity, and are an open political provocation,” Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said at a regular news briefing on Monday.

Because everybody thinks this is because she called Xi a Dictator - is there any proof, that this is really the case? I searched everywhere, but I couldn't find anything. I think the problem is her whole statement and not just calling Xi a dictator. I would be very very happy if anybody can give me a source for this. I would like to read the whole context and not just one sentence with nothing in it.

Don't downvote me, just give me a source. Thx.

[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When asked about Russia’s war on Ukraine, she said: “If Putin were to win this war, what sign would that be for other dictators in the world, like Xi, like the Chinese president?”

[–] Guildo@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Thx, maybe it helps other people to understand that this statement is implying that China would like to invade Taiwan. It implies that China wants to act like russia acted with ukraine. If you are following china's international politics and diplomacy you should understand that this is the bigger problem. They don't care about this dictator-shit. If they really care about the word dictator: PLS! PLS! PLS! Give me a source for it.

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[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about you don't fucking tell me what to do with my votes thanks

-downvoted

[–] Guildo@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Xi said that he'd start executing German tourists if they didn't take it back

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

whoa, got a source on that?

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you complain about people calling you a dictator means that you're fully aware that you are a dictator.

By that logic there are a whole bunch of Nazis on Lemmy and Hexbear is fighting the good fight.

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Pooh Bear is going to send out another final warning again. China loves those final warnings.

[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Omfg made my day

[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Can we say what a laugh of a minute he is

[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do they know healthy communication can gain a better impression and often less problematic, another boundaries and relationship course, thanks

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[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Aww, somebody hurt Winnie the Pooh’s feelings.

[–] shiveyarbles 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently he doesn't have a butthole because he's perfect.

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[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

This is hilarious

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