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I don’t see writing by hand as “intentionally inefficient”, I see it as an extremely easy way to reconnect with physical creation of some description.

We’ve all been trained to believe that we have to be as efficient as possible in order to maximise our profitability. But why? Why not take a few moments to do things a slower, more thoughtful way?

I like writing by hand - where appropriate. It feels nice to put ideas on paper. And as a bonus, those ideas don’t then get hoovered up whichever company made whichever app you’re writing into.

Writing by hand is definitely the main way I learn. The act of writing it embeds it in my memory moreso than looking at a screen.

I wonder how much of that is down to how we were taught though and it being more familiar and linked with education and cognition. Someone must have done a study on this somewhere.

I am quite sure I have ADHD (though not officially diagnosed), with that in mind here's my story.

There's a veritable cornucopia of programs and systems available to utilize when it comes to keeping digital notes, and none of them stick for me. I desperately want them to work, because I loathe writing things by hand due to hand cramps and poor penmanship. The thing I get hung up on a lot is getting comfortable in a certain software-based note-taking ecosystem and then running straight into a wall when I want it to do one particular thing I've identified as being useful, or perhaps the software just becomes unreliable for one reason or another. It's highly demotivating to me when I realize I've spent hours using something only for it to end up not working for me the way I wanted it to. Also, when I write digital notes, I have a very bad habit of editing, as if someone other than myself were to read my notes later (irrational, I know), so the process takes much longer than if I were to put the pen to paper.

The thing about pen and paper is, it just works. I might run out of paper or ink, but assuming I have access to more, I can write whatever and however I want. Sure, I don't get automation or full-text search "out of the box", but I can devise my own systems (short-hand, indexing, etc.) or borrow someone else's (Bullet Journal), even use external tools (scan document | OCR) to meet my needs when the time comes.

Right now I'm in the middle of building a habit of keeping a small journal on my person where I keep very simple remarks about my day and track personal tasks and events. I'm explicitly only using systems that I find useful and nearly effortless, but as I improve the habit I will try adding more complexity. I feel that if I can develop a solid core of analog writing, then it's likely I can begin to introduce more regular digital note-taking to augment this core practice.

I don't believe there is one method that works (or is even beneficial) for everyone, rather I think it's more important for individuals to find a method (or hybrid) that works for them, and stick to it.

It can certainly help with retention and processing of information because you're using both your mind and body to do it, but I have always struggled with it. I wasn't able to legibly write my own name until my early 20's and any small amount of writing badly hurt my hand. The struggle and discomfort takes away from any benefit and enjoyment it might have given me.

I use physical hand writing for two things,

1. When I get stressed and have to remember too many things (like I lose sleep because I can't stop thinking about it) I will carry a tiny journal in my pocket and write stuff in it I need to remember and cross it out when it is done. The less strict the rules of it the better. It is far from "bullet journaling".
2. If I need to take names while doing something else. Physical paper and pencil is better for whatever reason. Be it a video game, DND, anything. It's just easier to start and stop quick with a pencil on paper than it is on something physical.

For me, I always prefer to type rather than handwrite. While there are studies that say handwriting can help you retain information better, I handwrite at a fraction of a speed I can type, and the sore wrists from doing a lot of handwriting are far more distracting than the extra learning I could get from handwriting. The exception though is anything where I have to write mathematical formulas, where it is almost always faster to handwrite than remember the specific character sequences or keyboard shortcuts, though even then I prefer to write on my iPad, so I can easily reference it on my computer later.

For me, I prefer typing for just plain text, however things involving diagrams and equations can be easier to write out, rather than futzing around scrolling and adjusting the layout.

Also, as a side note, I think 0.3 mechanical pencils are underrated for writing.

Honestly I find that making physical hand written notes better cements the ideas in my head. It may be because I'm older so I started with only pen and paper which means that's how I best think, but for me writing and typing are two different tools and I tend to use both.

I struggle with it, mostly because I get frustrated how much faster I can type compared to handwriting things. I haven't hand written things since I left school.

I don't journal or really even take notes by hand anymore. The notebook I have in my bag is mostly for more abstract sketches, mockups, or examples.

However, I make a frequent practice of handwriting postcards to my friends and family, so I keep my handwriting well-maintained for that.

I worked in database administration for years and currently work in a database admin adjacent role and the only things I type are on the internet, emails, data entry, and official/final documents and documentation. I much prefer handwriting for basically everything else - especially for note taking, typing is too linear and non-visual for the way I like to lay notes out with many sketched arrows, diagrams, etc. I also perceive my data to be much more ephemeral in a digital format unless I'm going through the trouble of making multiple backups which...why would I when I can just achieve the same thing with a pen and notebook that I just have to be physically careful with and know the material limitations of. I especially don't trust whatever note-taking apps du jour to have long-lasting reliable data retention, I mostly just use my phones note taking app for the occasional on the go grocery list.

To be fair though I'm one of the kinds of IT people whose knowledge of the field makes me less trustful rather than more trustful of anything that's, to me, technologically overengineered; and I also am already on the computer all the time for my job, so much prefer to be off of it as much as possible during my free time.

I do handwritten notes for anything fast paced where I also have to respond in real time, because handwriting is a less mentally demanding task for me to explain or capture a concept than typing. I can star, I can draw, I can make up any word I want without squiggly lines, lists are instantaneous. I do design work, and noting a design change through typing is a nightmare when I can just squiggle the layout and put an arrow, cross out, annotate, whatever. I also find I remember handwritten notes better. The notes are a incoherent, illegible, squiggly mess, and I usually know exactly what they mean at a glance.

I actually have a reMarkable and love it. I don’t really use the notes to text or cloud functionality often, but the few times I have, it’s been really helpful. I like it better than a notebook because I don’t feel like I’m wasting paper, so I take notes a bit more freely as a result. It’s also helpful in situations where it’s impractical for me to use a keyboard. For example, I teach, and when I’m grading a presentation or explaining a concept to a student who already has their own laptop in front of them, I don’t want to muck with trying to make sure they can see my screen and it’s the proper size when it’s faster for me to sketch out the concept.

I’m also trying to learn Japanese, and having a way to freely practice writing as many times as I need to without having to print over and over again is really useful.

That said, I can’t think of a reason I would ever write anything with actual grammar or sentence structure involved longform. If it’s just me and the computer, no other interruptions and I can focus on my inner voice, typing is much faster and more natural. I’m able to type closer to the speed I can think than I can write, but that’s because I’m used to typing like I think - in full sentences. Trying to type shorthand is like sludge for me the same way trying to write longhand is like sludge. I use both because they serve different purposes for me :)

I hate writing by hand, even though I went all the way through high school doing it (only things like final essays were typed, and even then you had to do it at home). It always hurt to do it the way I was supposed to, my handwriting never improved after like 1st grade (until I taught myself to write left-handed in my early 20's; that's much neater), and I have a horrible sensory issue involving the feel of a dull pencil dragging across paper. It makes me want to jump out a goddamned window.

Even so, writing things by hand helps me remember stuff better. Once I got to college and I was allowed to use whatever writing implement I wanted to take notes with (sparkly gel pens in a variety of colors), it wasn't so awful, and it helped my memory so much that I don't think I ever had to look at the notes I took ever again. So if I'm going to a lecture or a conference or something, I'll still bring a notebook and some fancy gel pens.

Otherwise, the only thing I do with hand-writing is quick notes when I'm talking on the phone and need to record an account number or e-mail or whatever, or when I need to create a reminder to go back and fix something I'm already ahead of at work. Post-it notes are so much quicker than taking the phone away from my ear, navigating to OneNote, selecting the notebook, selecting "new page", and then typing it out. If I want to transcribe the information in some way that's not strictly left-aligned, or if I want to draw circles/boxes/arrows, well, One Note says "too bad, suck it up". Plus, I can stick the post-it to my monitor and it's in my line of sight all day; shit I note down in the phone is out-of-sight, out-of-mind.

Yes, I know I can use the desktop version of OneNote, which has more functionality. I do use it when I'm outlining or making adventure notes for the D&D game I run; it's fabulous for that. But it's utter shit for quickly jotting down "call Denise at [number] <--- IMPORTANT DO BEFORE ----> call Electric Company about acct [#] at [number]". That example doesn't even make sense typed out.

my handwriting is fucked, and i find typing easier. so i don't handwrite unless strictly necessary, and even then, it's usually no mare than a few sentences

I enjoy writing by hand, but I do look forward to a good e-ink device (Products like the remarkable have a subscription model and it's closed hardware and software, which is a big negative to me). Waiting to see how projects like PineNote evolve.

For now I just write on which ever notebook is closest to me. The act of writing is more important than actually storing information somewhere outside of my head.

For me it's mostly the ease of it. I'm the type to get very bogged down by (perceived) steps, hurdles, and visual overstimulation. An illustration:

Notebook

• Find pen or pencil
• Find the page you need
• Go

Tablet/Etc

• Is it charged
• Specific pen only
• Keyboard needs pairing
• Is keyboard charged
• It wants to update now, awesome
• Turn it on, see ten unrelated apps --> forget what I'm doing
• App randomly decides it needs internet access
• Probably have to deal with syncing now
• etc etc
• (another 'me' problem: I get really hung up on trying to format things digitally, which takes time way from what I'm supposed to be doing)

Now, there are certainly benefits to writing things out digitally, especially when searchability is key. Any important info in any of my booklets that I might need to find later on gets typed up or entered into a spreadsheet where applicable. Not the most efficient way to do things, I suppose. 😅

In general though: I just like being able to look down and see a thing I've written, rather than needing to wake up a device, open a program, or otherwise fiddle with a screen, especially while multitasking.

I like to do both. There are times where I need to type everything, because my typing speed can keep up with my thoughts. I can get all of the thoughts out of my head quickly, and clear my head so I can focus. It's also easier to do in some places, like when I'm at work - typing myself a quick note and then emailing it to my home email (or saving it in drive), is much faster and more likely to make it where I need it to go. I tend to forget physical items at work.

Writing by hand I use for journaling. For slowing down and taking time to do something. For magic - where I want to put intention and energy into the words and sometimes burn the paper after. For when my eyes are so sick of screens that I just need a break, but still need to get those thoughts out. I'd also rather handwrite something then type it on my phone - Eventually I need to get one with a stylus so I can just write on the screen.

It's the same reason I usually draw things by hand, then scan them to digitize. I have a tablet. I use it for digitization. But my art is generally better by hand.

I have 10+ handwritten notebooks with all of my journaling from middle school and high school that I do plan to scan and OCR at some point; in college, I used 750words.com for all of my journaling, and since then I've migrated to TiddlyWiki for several years and Obsidian for several more.

I do still hand-write occasionally, mostly for really emotional or personal things, but I wouldn't want to make it my primary method of writing now that I have the majority of my writing digitized. Being able to search and find that thought from 5 years ago that I want to reference in whatever I'm writing today is great. I also find it helps make connections between recurring topics of interest.

I've started using handwritten physical kanban cards, though, and that physicality is incredibly helpful in visualizing the projects and work I want to do and keeping it at the forefront of my mind.

I like writing things by hand. I don't do it because of the supposed brain activation, but I genuinely like the feeling of writing. That's most of it, honestly.

On a more practical note, I find that I'd rather have more organized information in electronic format, but writing by hand is much simpler for quick notes - so I'll usually jot down stuff I need to last a few days, meeting notes and such, and I might type those things out in a tidier manner if I feel like the information warrants it, if it's something I might need to come back to in a few months or years.

While yes, I technically do type faster than I write by hand, when I'm taking notes of something, I usually mix sentences with quick sketches and diagrams - and I can do that much faster by hand than using some sketching software.

I like writing and taking notes by hand. When I need to think something out I write it. I like this primarily because I can do things like add arrows, create bubbles, and create diagrams much easier and faster by hand than with a screen. I want to get an e-ink tablet at some point, but for now a paper and pencil/pen is cheaper.

My typing speed is lightning fast, and when I'm writing fiction sometimes that's too fast. I can get a looooot of words down very quickly, but it tends to come out in a very impulsive, chaotic, stream-of-consciousness kind of way.

Writing by hand forces me to slow tf down and thing about what I'm doing. It's like a pace car.

I have adhd though. And I do use both. But at least for fiction writing they feel very different.

Also, for note taking, I like a blank notebook best because it has no pre-determined structure to wrestle with or frustrate me, no menus to get lost in, no privacy invading tracking or ads. And crossing something off with a physical pen, for to do lists, just feels way more satisfying somehow than ticking a box.

And I need an excuse to use my fountain pens and nice notebooks, which are just a tactile pleasure to use. It's a calm joy in my life in the same way that curling up in a comfy armchair with a cat and a physical book might be.

I find handwriting also lets me better organize my thoughts and allow me to practise and develop my reading and writing skills in the initial stages. Writing makes it easier to organize or make edits as I rewrite everything when I move it to my pc. It just adds less steps to the whole process because I can properly focus on making my first edit and rework everything. It also makes it easier for me to bring around to other people when I see them. I find with a digital copy, most people just press spellcheck and be done with it instead of commenting on how and why I phrase certain sentences and which words might better communicate my ideas. I'm also a bit overwhelmed sometimes when I go through my digital documents that I end up just chipping away at the editing rather than be able to focus on it.

On the other, the idea of carrying a little notebook around to jot things down when I have a phone in my pocket, or using a fountain pen for longform text (trust me it would actually help you avoid hand cramps, aside from being less wasteful) all comes across as... intentionally inefficient? I struggle to see intentional inefficiency as anything but pretension. Like it's all just fetishizing living a more analogue life.

For most people hand cramps are caused by using the wrong/bad tool and bad body ergonomics and awareness. After I've upgraded to better pencils and pens, I've had to use way less force to use which mitigated some of the cramping. The rest of it was just me using only my wrists and straining my fingers to write which is entirely incorrect.

I've also tried to go digital for note taking but I find I rarely ever did it properly and also rarely reviewed. I also ended up waiting way longer for the apps to load than needed for such short and simple notes. Now I only ever add events into my calender, the rest I just write down on a piece of paper whenever possible.

My hands and wrists hurt pretty much all the time, so typing is WAY better. Plus, you can't read my handwriting at all, so better for everyone.

I find that I remember things better if I write something down by hand. I’m more likely to forget if I type it out.

However if speed is a necessity, definitely typed even if I need to re-visit it multiple times. Handwriting is just too slow sometimes.

I type for a living (developer) and I find that I can type WAY faster than I can write. So that is how I prefer to communicate with people and interact with most things during my day. However, when I am on a meeting or a call, I just cannot multitask well enough to capture key details on a computer. I have no idea what my disconnect with that is, but I've given up on trying to type notes and memos while I'm on a call and invested in a fountain pen and a good pad of paper. I will mention that I do really enjoy the feel of a really good pen on paper and maybe that type of feedback is what lets my brain take handwritten notes better.

Personally I've always had a strong preference and better time with typing compared to writing.

Maybe it was because I was put in front of a keyboard at a relatively early age, or maybe because I was on a computer more than many of my peers? Maybe it's related to potential traits that could come with being AuDHD that I was never raised to consider? Maybe it's being left-handed and writing in a left-to-right written language? It's probably a loose combination of all of these.

My typing is quicker than my peers, but I think that gets compounded with my writing being slower, too. I'd say that my handwriting is legible enough, but I just absolutely cannot write at an efficient speed compared to a lot of other people. I don't necessarily mind taking things slow, but it means I miss out on info that others wouldn't. Having the ability to type my notes starting around late high school and going into college was a serious boon for my notetaking. Before then, I'd have a solid idea of what I wanted to jot down, but the class would be leaps and bounds ahead by the time I wrapped up a bullet point. Getting pencil lead or pen ink all over my fingers certainly didn't help my ability to keep up, either.

I also find a lot more benefit from doing notes digitally compared to by hand. I really appreciate being able to tag things and search around loosely, and I find myself much more capable of shifting things around and getting things to look just the way I want them compared to doing so on a notebook. Sometimes there's quirks with my notetaking app of the time that'll grind my gears, but it's ultimately a better experience than doing it by hand for me. Need to shift something from one section to another? What about from one page to another? No problem, Cut-and-Paste is something that any program will have. I'm not gonna do that cleanly and quickly on paper. Need to make a table or put in an image? Most if not all of the notetaking apps I'll use will be capable of that, whereas doing that by hand will take me much longer. Is there something I really need to write or draw by hand? Likewise, most if not all notetaking apps I use let me switch between the two when I'm on a device that lets me take advantage of that. I don't have the freedom to choose how I do that on paper.

While I get that there's a lot of evidence out there that says people remember things better when written down compared to writing, that's just…never been my experience? I never felt a strong difference in how I remember something or how creative I am whether I write it or type it. If anything, I personally find it easier to remember things or explore things when I do it digitally. By all means, if someone does better with writing, I say let them write. But personally, being forced to write has only been a disservice.

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All that said, there is a place in me for writing or generally working physically, however. It's still oftentimes a lot easier and privacy respecting to directly hand strangers a note jot down on a pocketbook than it is to juggle contact info and send it over. Physical notes can also be placed to be read later in a way that digital notes can't. And no matter the preparation I do, I'd say there's always a higher chance for my digital devices to die on me compared to my physical ones. It doesn't get nearly as much use as my phone, and most days I don't need it, but I keep a lil' pocketbook and a few pens on me to fill those edge cases.

I think apraxia is a bitch. ☹

But seriously, I used to always get journals and be the person to try this, but my hands just cannot write anymore. Terrible handwriting plus I get cramps and can't hold a pen correctly. I wish there was a safe application on android that I could use to write and journal, but the ones I found so far were too sus for me, so mostly I use wordpad on my pc.

The onky thing i ever hand write is my signature. Everything else is typing

I personally do not care what people think or tell me about handwriting. I do not enjoy writing things out by hand, I much prefer typing. So that is what I do. Simple as that.

I feel the same, handwriting is just labor to me and gets in the way because it's so slow.

I write by hand to get things out of my head, whether useful or negative it tends to stop me mulling over it. I've always liked the idea of getting a fountain pen, but have never actively pursued it.

it's great. i like fountain pens and write a lot by hand.

I keep a physical journal and often do free writing just to get thoughts and ideas out. I usually write in cursive and can’t even read it myself afterwards. For me, the act of taking the time to physically write things down is really helpful to process. I almost never return to what I’ve previously written down, but it feels great to get it out. Brains can be weird.

99% digital for me. The 1% is hand writing the occasional master password, just in case I forget it.

Writing things by hand is nice, and one of my favorite hobbies is calligraphy. Plus there’s something really reassuring about holding a small notebook.

But if I’m not intentionally writing in calligraphic style my handwriting looks like my fingers threw up on the page.

This year I started keeping a shitty little notebook I don't care about losing or damaging in my pocket with a cheap fountain pen. I use it whenever the need or desire takes me, which might be every day for a week, or not at all for a month. I use it to stabilize tables sometimes, or just to flip through if I want to do something with my hands. I've used to to keep score in boardgames, or to write down my thoughts and feelings. I really love it.

I'm a software engineer of about 8 years and I think the longer time goes on the more I want to be disconnected from a screen in my free time. I love coding and gaming and scrolling Kbin on my phone, but sometimes it's so nice to just put all that down, take a walk, and write stuff on real paper. Doesn't need to be anything more than that. Not for me, anyways

I'm 100% a "both" person.

I take notes on my phone, especially if it's something I'll need on-the-go (like a grocery list). But I also write a lot of physical notes with pen and paper.

Especially for things like a remodeling project on the house - I can scribble out my thought process as I go, small ammendments with measurements or whatever as needed, etc. I prefer writing notes by hand, but there's no one right answer. For me, anyway.

I journal and take notes regularly by hand and have written novel-length manuscripts in the last couple of years by hand. I prefer using fountain pens or else my hand cramps up (and using anything else for that amount of writing can get a bit wasteful). I don't know if it's better for my memory, but I prefer it for other reasons.

My process is to write a first draft by hand to minimize digital distractions. I take my notebook and pen somewhere without internet, and leave my laptop and phone behind. Then, I type it up, and this is a sort of "natural" 2nd draft process, as I obviously make smaller or larger edits as I'm re-reading my own work.

My mom still has notebooks from when she was in high school. Digital amnesia means I don't have any of my high school and college homework anymore. I developed this system because realized I was putting a lot of effort into managing digital backups of all of my drafts and shit when simple folders and stacks of paper would do fine. But really, I mostly do it because I have ADHD, and using computers to write longform drafts is difficult because they are highly distracting devices. Typewriters and notebooks that only do one thing make things more straightforward for me. So, for me it's basically an ADHD accommodation, I get why most people don't approach things this way in 2023.

I used to be quite skeptical about this in the same way as the OP here. However, after teaching for a number of years I have seen anecdotal evidence that handwriting notes does help with retention of information. Taking notes by hand forces you to process the information in ways that typing (or, let's be honest..taking pictures or recordings) cannot. Basically, aside from the fine motor skills involved, the slower process of note-taking by hand forces you to actually think more about what you write, as you have to summarize more due to the physical process being less efficient. Too many students nowadays make the mistake that simply being familiar with, having digital access to, or simply recognizing a particular bit of information is the same thing as actually knowing or mastering the info. (Yes, I know....old man shakes fist at passing cloud...)

I will second the bit about fountain pens helping with hand cramps/writing fatigue and being less wasteful than other writing methods. Same with the advent of e-ink screens helping with the often cited example of digitized info contributing to eye strain.

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I hand write and type in pretty equal tandem. Writing poetry oftentimes, I feel better about drafting things on scratch paper (or at least brainstorming) before seeing how it appears in type/print. Other times, I might be at my laptop with an idea that comes to mind that's easier to type out in my text editor first. I find my own dynamic very fluid and I imagine it's mostly the same for others. I think it could really depend on the work being done. And I don't think pretty handwriting is always necessary. If you can read it, it should be enough.

It's simply untenable if I expect anyone else to read it. When I was in school I even had a 504 plan to avoid handwriting assignments and used an alphasmart for a while.

I just like it. Writing with a fountain pen is much more HANDS ON than writing something down on a phone or (bad) laptop keyboards. Especially if your pen is higher quality. Although a nice mechanical keyboard can be quite nice (I like tactiles a lot).

The practical thing also is: If you keep your notes well organized, it can actually be much more accessible. I dunno, I have spent my entire life with PCs, but they feel "cluttered" so quickly and require so many revisions of organisation.

Having both is useful though, so I keep physical versions and scan them later to also have them digitally available AND not having to use those evil, evil printers who want me to buy more ink...

I'm learning another language, and writing by hand feels like the fastest way things get remembered in my mind. It makes the learning more...visceral, I am more engaged in things that happen instead of an audience passively absorbing and experiencing. And i think that that translates to other experiences because i love handwriting, i love the act of putting words onto paper and other medium.

Someone who engages the world another way - when your information is tied to the flow of characters instead of shaping the characters themselves, of course sees it differently. A visual artist who rarely types and puts down thought in sketches instead of words - will struggle to type their vision too when they would rather put down a series of images and just a minimum of words .