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[–] ActualShark@lemmy.blahaj.zone 99 points 1 year ago (4 children)

China's Four Pests campaign is a great example. As the campaign says, China had a bit of a pest problem. One of these particular pests was the sparrow. The government decided it would be a great idea to launch an "exterminate sparrows" campaign. The only problem was sparrows ate other pests such as bedbugs and locusts.

In short, they sucessfully curbed the "sparrow problem" and replaced it with a "locusts and bedbugs problem". This ultimately upset the ecological balance and further lowered the rice yields. It was a complete disaster

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 24 points 1 year ago

Sounds exactly like a China thing.

[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The great leap forward was such a colossal clusterfuck that you can't blame it on any one thing (although most of them would be prevented without the authoritarianism). Literally everything was wrong. Sparrows, lysenkoism, forced collectivization (basically, and perhaps ironically, farmers not owning the means of production), Mao just being evil, backyard burners, rigid chain of command that gave the chairman absolute authority but at the same prevented him from knowing what was going on, everything.

[–] bady@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the best examples of unintended consequences, aiding in one of the largest human caused disasters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

[–] bermuda 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another good example is when the Soviet Union dammed the Aral Sea in order to create irrigation canals for cotton and other produce in the region. It worked at first and they had a huge economic boom, but this is also one of history's most prominent examples of "Ecological Collapse"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea#Irrigation_canals

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[–] ActualShark@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like to call it "The Great Stumble Backwards"

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Brexit. As historical blunders go, this has a beautiful unambiguous purity.

[–] bady@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, but unlike usual blunders this was very much planned!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Once the campaigns were underway, yes. But the opportunity came from a huge blunder by David Cameron. He called the referendum expecting an easy win for the remain side that would silence the anti-EU faction in his party and shore up his position as PM. Instead, the anti-EU faction won, prompting his own resignation and causing damage to the UK's economy, a loss of global influence, the loss of British people's right to live and work in the EU, and reopening difficult issues in Northern Ireland that had been laid to rest for years. It also arguably sped up the Conservative Party's lurch to the right and its embrace of UKIP-like policies, disempowering Conservative moderates and leading to the spiral of ever less competent governments we have seen since then. In particular, Boris Johnson's rise was a direct result of post-referendum power games among Conservative politicians.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what's David Cameron up to these days? I'm sure such a massive and unnecessary screw-up has landed him in dire personal straights. /s

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] DoisBigo@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 1 year ago

The Las Vegas Loop.

(known on dictionaries as a tunnel)

And nobody have died there yet.

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[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Napoleon's invasion of Russia. It led what might be the first great infographic ever though. Charles Minard’s Infographic of Napoleon’s Invasion of Russia from 1869 (Carte figurative des pertes successives en hommes de l’ArmΓ©e franΓ§aise dans la campagne de Russie en 1812-1813)

Tan colour line from left to right is the trip from France to Moscow, 1mm line weight = 6000 soldiers, black colour line from right to left is the trip back to France. The line slowly thins and diverges like a tree branch until 422k soldiers are whittled down to 10k returning. Not quite the outcome Napoleon had intended.

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Also the temperature at the bottom showing how cold it was on the way back. It explains why everyone died in the river.

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[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 year ago

The Jan. 6th insurrectionists who thought Trump was going to pardon them all because they were heroes.

[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Buying Twitter for 44B and renaming it to X.

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Gunpowder Plot. Guy Fawkes and his friends were about to blow up parliament, and on the week it was supposed to happen, one of his accomplices sent a letter to a noble. In what was probably the worst example of "asking for a friend" in history, it asked "hypothetically, what would happen if someone went into the basement and blew up parliament". The noble did what nobody expected he would do and, get this, responded to the letter. People searched the palace basement and found Guy Fawkes, he was arrested and killed, and we have Guy Fawkes Day. The reason this led to a loss is because the king of England at the time used it as an excuse to persecute Catholics and make the holiday which is used as a taunt.

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[–] bermuda 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm willing to nominate Charles II, King of Spain as a formerly alive blunder. The result of decades of Hapsburg inbreeding, he had a number of health and intellectual issues from birth and he was notably infertile. If you live in a monarchy where succession is passed down through children, it's REALLY BAD to be infertile and be King. His death directly caused the War of the Spanish Succession, a 13-and-a-half year war that eventually involved pretty much all of western Europe and likely led to the deaths of over 1 million people.

Literally could have avoided this if the Habsburgs decided to have sex with other people.

[–] Ejh3k@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should be blaming his parents, he didn't ask for all those problems to be born with.

[–] bermuda 8 points 1 year ago

Literally what I'm doing

[–] idle@158436977.xyz 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Chernobyl comes to mind as the biggest fuck up ever. Whenever I think I fucked up I try to remember, it can never be as bad as Chernobyl.

[–] Ejh3k@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ended up taking down the soviet union. The whole meltdown is fascinating. I read a book about it. I think it was called midnight at chernobyl, so something like it.

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[–] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Russia invasion of Ukraine. They used to be number 2 army with sophisticated weapons. Now they are number 1 world laughing stock with weapons that works exceptionally well for invading Mars but not on earth.

[–] Klame@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago

As they say, from number 2 army in the world to number 2 army in Ukraine.

Now with a risk of becoming number 2 army in Russia...

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[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does personal blunders count? Because I changed my Bitwarden password and now I'm locked out of all my accounts.

For details: https://reddthat.com/post/1115518

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[–] ram@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't really result in a loss, but a huge missed opportunity, when AT&T turned down an offer for them to purchase the early internet.

[–] bady@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least something we can all cheer about :)

This also reminds me of Yahoo turning down the offer to buy Google in their early stage! https://finance.yahoo.com/news/remember-yahoo-turned-down-1-132805083.html

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[–] RealAccountNameHere 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first thing that came to mind, oddly enough, was Blockbuster refusing to buy Netflix for the equivalent of a rat and a string to swing it with.

[–] Jourei@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really doubt that Netflix would be what it is today if they had gotten bought. Too much would change too soon.

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[–] yads@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Target's failed expansion into Canada. It's taught as a case study on what not to do in business schools now.

[–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

Wendy's tried to get into the Netherlands, but couldn't, because there was already a snackbar (think small fastfood place but greasier) that was registered under the name "Wendy's" at the chamber of commerce. This spawned a lawsuit. You had Wendy's, a local snackbar who claimed rights to the name because they were already established, and Wendy's, a franchise coming from America. They claimed right to the name because they were a franchise, and not just a single fastfood joint.

To solve this issue, the local snackbar opened up a second location, making local Wendy's a franchise, and winning them the lawsuit

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[–] mewpichu@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

In terms of money and business, my fav is how Xerox didn't know how to market/capitalize on what was effectively the first personal computer before personal computers were even a concept, which is estimated to be a $1.4 trillion mistake.

[–] space 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This Xerox Alto restoration series is a really interesting reflection on that. Here's the point in the series where they finally get it running. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OQMhvArI9g

Yeah, Xerox made revolutionary progress. But it appears that their proximity to a viable consumer product is a bit exaggerated. It really did still take another set of eyes and minds to wrangle it in. I think if they did release it sooner, and without the leaks, the next competitor still would have seen that and soon come along and done a better enough job to nullify their first-mover advantage.

Those days were chock full of companies that ended up just contributing to the zeitgeist of computing without themselves reaping in the glory.

I think Steve Jobs' comments about what Xerox could have been... Is largely him stroking his ego that he and Apple pulled off what they couldn't.

I don't think Xerox would be the Mac of today in most timelines.

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[–] Didros 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Okay, I listen to a fair amount of history podcasts, so let's see what I can pull out of my head for fun:

There was Rainbow Man, who famously went to sports games across America, holding up a sign that read "John 3:16" in an attempt to convert people to Christianity. He later died in a hotel shoot out where he took a maid hostage in his hotel room full of guns.

There was the time the President of America secretly went on a trip to Panama on one of two ships. While trying to show off to the president doing drills, the other ship accidentally shot a torpedo at the presidents ship. He pulled a pistol and attempted to shoot the torpedo with it.

The settlement at Roanoke, which was one of the earliest attempts by Europeans to settle in America and by the time ships got back with supplies (I believe years after they said they would be back) the settlement was empty. Still unsolved to this day.

America has dropped at least two nuclear warheads on itself accidentally, which have all failed to detonate.

Benedict Arnold was one of the best military minds ever born in America. He paid for his own troops for years, and when he asked for repayment or even his own salary, the Republicans claimed he actually owed the government money. They gave him tje reputation of only caring about money and refused to ever pay him until he finally took money from Britan to make ends meet.

George Bush senior crashed into German electrical lines and flew the plane back to base causing an international incident. He never received punishment for this and continued to fly for the military. He also did a bunch of drug smuggling and no one cared.

Look into pretty much any time people wanted to explore an area for the first time and there was most likely a massive loss of life and money. Australia and America seem to have the funniest stories of people's attempts to name every river and mountain they see.

That's what I got off the top of my head. :)

[–] Malgas 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The settlement at Roanoke [...] Still unsolved to this day.

The word "CROATOAN" was carved on one of the buildings in the colony. The colonists had had friendly interactions with the native people living on Croatoan Island, which was nearby. There were later reports of native people with fair skin and beards on Croatoan Island.

So mysterious! Where could the colonists possibly have gone?

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[–] bermuda 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

America has dropped at least two nuclear warheads on itself accidentally, which have all failed to detonate.

These are known as "Broken Arrow" incidents, and at least 32 have been officially recognized by the government. Some of them were accidental releases of the bombs, others were plane (or other vehicle) crashes that contained bombs. There's likely more that haven't been recognized by the government. almost all of them happened between 1950 and 1980. Now that the cold war has died down, we haven't been moving around our nuclear warheads as often and so haven't had a new one. At least, not an official new one.

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Long-Term Capital Management was a hedge fund founded in 1994 that had notable academics and Nobel Prize winners on its board. It was very successful in the early years (while critics warned of the risks) and eventually collapsed in 1998, losing $4.6 billion in a matter of months due to its leverage and impacts of currency crises. The US government stepped in to shore up the financial system. It's taught as a case study in how a strategy can post impressive returns but quickly turn into a wipeout.

[–] Cobrachickenwing@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Scotland trying to colonize the Darien gap It bankrupted Scotland and forced the union of England and Scotland to be the UK.

[–] UdeRecife@literature.cafe 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Any history book will be filled with such stories. Depending on the outlook, I'd say all history is like that.

Take any one event. Let's pick any decisive moment in history. Say, the battle of Salamis. Now flip it to the side of the Persians and you have the kind of blunder you're looking for.

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[–] traveler01@lemdro.id 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty much anything the government in my country does results in a huge loss of state funds lol

[–] apostasie@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Prepare to laugh your ass off.

I'm due for surgery next month to finally get my ass sewn back on after listening to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jDbJbCuKl4

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[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

The Battle of Manzikert led directly to the end of the Roman Empire, all because of mismanagement.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cambium stock recently dropped to $10 after the CEO stepped down during their call. A large part of their problems are likely due to the pandemic shortages catching up.

But a high failure rate on their new line of switches, and high prices while starlink eats their lunch isn't helping.

Edit: Used to be over $50.

[–] cedeho@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

King Mansu Musa was incredibly rich and when he went on hajj to mecca he spent much of his gold in Egypt causing a massive inflation. On his way back to Mali this has caused him needing to spend much more this time on his route through Egypt which is why he needed loans from merchants.

Dunno if this could be considered a big loss?

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