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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 123 points 1 week ago

So angry this isn’t even satire.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 120 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The reality is even worse. They're going to "learn" all the wrong lessons. They will shift further to the right, like they always do.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At this point you might as well start a third party.

Some kind of Democratic Socialist Party of America maybe.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The only ones that need to learn are the vile pieces of shit that chose to throw their vote away or not even vote. A politician doesnt give them all they want so they sacrifice the planet. Lowest of the low. Same kind of trash as maga

[–] sonori 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Every single third party protest vote could have gone to Harris and she still would have heavily lost. She managed to even lose the damn popular vote by five million votes, despite Trump having a lower turnout than 2020.

This wasn’t because people voted third party, this was because at a time when incumbents have seen massive pushback across the globe from Covid inflation and Biden was unpopular across the board she ran as completely the same as Biden but even more Right on the border.

At a time when the politically disconnected working class families that make up the record trunout in 2020 were struggling with wage stagnation, erosion of Covid gains, and greedflation eroding their savings and pensions, four more years of the same but we’ll adopt even more Republican policies and look how many rich Republicans like us was never going to get the everperson off the damn couch.

More of the same is not a good platform for ‘progressives’ during economic hardship, even if it was out of their control and less hardship than most peer nations.

Even though Trump is a disaster for many of us, most people got though his first four years just fine, and don’t understand just how much damage he did or how much more he could do if the guardrails failed.

Getting the general public out to vote requires giving them something they want to vote for, and when the biggest thing you can point to doing or wanting to do more of is some clean energy related tax breaks that is a major problem.

Had the Dems impeached Clarence Thomas for his and his wife’s role in Jan 6, had Biden improved the immigration system like promised, had he provided free National Guard abortion clinics on federal land, had he made the FDA make puberty blockers and abortion medicine available by teleheath and mail, or indeed had any major victories in the last half of his term to show, we would not be here. Had they run AOC, Bernie, Waltz, or anyone at all who could articulate a platform beyond four more years of the same, we would not be here. Had Harris focused on how she could use left wing policy to fight the effects of late stage capitalism, we would not be here.

This election was an unforced error of the highest consequences, and one brought about by a political party that was so confident that until he dies of old age every politically disinterested Amarican would be so scared by the threat of Trump that they would maintain an unprecedented level of voter turnout without them having to actually do or promise anything.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 6 points 1 week ago

Well said. As soon as Harris started parading Biden around on campaign events and talking about "we love you Joe" I knew it was over. It doesn't matter that a lot of the circumstances were out of his control, to many people Biden's term is associated with hardship. The Dems had a unique opportunity to sidestep the issue by having Harris position herself as a separate candidate, distancing herself from the Biden administration and pushing a narrative of her having different and new ideas for the country. Instead they tried themselves to the status quo in a moment where the everyman is suffering and it pulled them down like a boat anchor.

It's a damn embarrassment, and the whole world is left weeping. Fucking hell.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I blame third party AND non voters. They and MAGA are all the same kind of scum who sacrificed your democracy.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then, you'll deal with this over and over until America becomes a completely fascist nation. That'll teach those third party and non-voters. At least you'll have your moral high ground, right?

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (13 children)

America already will be a completely fascist nation thanks to the fascist enabling non voters

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not yet, it's not completely fascist yet, but with the way you're acting, there's not going to be any significant resistance towards the US becoming a completely fascist country since you're more interested in blaming each other instead of learning from your mistakes and work together to be better. What a defeatist mindset you have.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It will be completely fascist in January. And its thanks to non voters. They deserve all that is coming.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

You deserve what is coming, as well, from everything I see you write.

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[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...i'm not sure that's how one builds a coalition...

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There wont be a coalition with fascists. You had the vote between fascism and no fascism. If you choose that you dont want to vote for either you support fascism.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Enjoy the unfettered fascism, then, since you refuse to even find allies to fight against it.

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[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Which do you think is better? Dems giving people what they want to earn their vote or trump winning?

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 64 points 1 week ago

We also want to congratulate our friends in the Republican party, they played a great game and we can’t wait to work with them more.

Republican National Committee Chair Michael Whatley is excited to see his colleagues at the DNC make the same mistakes over and over.

This is amazing.

“I saw how the DNC ignored voters, I saw how they talked down to people, and that just made my job easy. I go in and say ‘Democrats think you’re dumb, but Republicans think you’re a genius’ and these dopes eat it up like the slop they feed their pigs.

Holy fuck is this even satire anymore? I can literally see a GOP campaign official say that in private.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Local opinion piece:

https://www.startribune.com/brehm-democrats-have-themselves-to-blame-for-trumps-election/601176736

I read it because of the title, but it's just some shithead that wants them to move further right:

This red wave wasn’t as much about embracing Donald Trump as it was repudiating far-left progressivism.

[...], and then foisted upon us an equally unqualified and unpalatable hard left alternative.

They are already creating the groundwork for sucking more corporate dick.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How can this be a rejection of the far left when Harris campaigned as a moderate (e.g. Cheney)? If republican voters are going to think Democrats are communist regardless of how moderate the Democrats are, maybe moderating isn't a good strategy. If the only choice is between right-wing and lite right-wing, right-wing voters will choose the real thing. Even then, Trumpists will still call democrats communists.

Many left polices are popular when they aren't labelled as left

@theonion

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago

Thats the fun part, people consider dems "far left" because...... Reasons, I guess? This country is so far right just the idea of building more housing counts as communist.

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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Reminds me of that joke about how there are only two races: White, and political. It's disheartening to see folks (some here on Lemmy) confusing listening to the concerns of brown-skinned people with leftism. The Arab-Americans in Michigan, for a relevant example, are just people with a range of political opinions like the rest of us.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago

Oh they learned their lessons:

  1. blame minorities
  2. shift further right
[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 36 points 1 week ago

Have they tried committing multiple felonies ? Are they even watching and learning ?

[–] vordalack@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They ran Harris thinking she would win based on her demographics. The DNC needs to learn that not everyone wants a black/LGBTQ/woman/etc candidate that just runs on their race/gender/sexuality.

They want someone that's competent that will campaign on policies that will make their lives better. The DNC has moved so far away from the working class that the RNC, the party of wealthy creeps, has them.

[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

running token candidates beholden to them is very shady but brilliant strategy by the superpacs :

if they loose: blame it on sexism, racism bigotry to divert the attention from reforms in dnc for progressive leadership. and even if they pretend to be sad about it, the megarich elites and donors get taxcuts and endless price gouging from republicans.

if they win: token candidate passes some token laws which gets either blocked in senate or so poorly implemented that they actually end up giving billions to megacorps for no visible benefit to people. case in point: https://www.atr.org/kamalas-broadband-bust-42-billion-996-days-zero-homes-connected/

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So far what I have learned about what Kamala has learned is:

It is now the darkest night in America.

But...

There are billions of stars you can only see at night!

...

You know, faint, distant glimmers from long, long ago, that you can squint at and imagine they form coherent, stable, meaningful structures... which are not, and never really were there at all.

...

I do not know if she was intentionally attempting to invert/reference Reagan's 'Morning in America' and HW's 'Thousand points of light', or if she somehow thought this was an original, meaningful metaphor.

Either would be pathetic and disgusting.

...

Anyway, quite literally that may have been how democracy in America died, to another speech of meaningless platitudes, ending with thunderous applause, congratulating that a failed struggle was worth it, because even though it failed, it played by the rules and was gracious in defeat.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What I would like to know the most is why 14 million registered Democrats failed to vote in this election, especially given what is at stake. Because if it was for some stupid, single issue, then fark them, good and hard.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it's because the dems tacked hard right to appeal to the mythical "moderate conservative" while telling everyone to the left of them to fuck off for months and months on end. people were shouting from the rooftops that this was going to cost them the election, and damn wouldn't you know it, it looks like it did! will they learn from it? probably not!

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you need to ask, then you haven't been paying attention

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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Having fake primaries sure didn't help.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Dick riding dick Cheney might have something to do with it. Fucking embarrassing.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Aren't most of DNC rich AF? I can only see them benefiting from Trump.

Now they can just sit and do fuck all, because they lost everything. I'd say that makes their dayjob easier.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago

Oddly enough, Biden, Harris, and especially Walz are among the least rich politicians in DC. They are still way better off than middle class Americans though.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

This is unironically true, unfortunately.

[–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Pokémon God save us!

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