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Having read a bit about this dispute and the parties involved I think the best settlement prospect for this lawsuit is to set everybody involved on fire.
Waste of a perfectly good fire.
Prometheus doesn't get his liver ripped out every day by an eagle, for you to not set shit on fire.
So if I follow, basically everyone involved has been banking on users getting confused about what the "legit" version of WordPress is, with known transphobic asshole photomatt being particularly egregious with WordPress.com vs wordpress.org, and then known transphobic asshole photomatt remembered that he also had some more direct influence in WordPress.org that he could use to smite his enemies. Is that about right or am I missing some steps?
This guy has a serious case of Sam Bankman-Fried-levels of self-implicating logo-diarrhea. He seems massively invested in being seen as virtuous and winning in the court of public opinion. As someone with ASD, I can understand the impulse when you feel you're being wronged and I've certainly sometimes put my foot in my mouth out of frustrated interactions, but my god, I don't own a million dollar company and teams of PR people and lawyers to cover for me.
Matt sentenced to 25 years somewhere he can quietly sit and rest with his Leica collection
Blog post: Day 1 of my 25 year sabbatical
excellent stuff matt
"When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
I suspect that he is incapable of admitting to himself that he is in a hole, much less that he dug it himself.
on the contrary, 99% of the people who find themselves in a hole stop digging right before they fix the situation
Matt is gonna shoot his mouth off so hard he gets wordpress.org's 501(c)3 status pulled
I need a dummy's guide to this entire thing, yesterday I didn't know about Mullenweg's existence and today I learn wordpress is suing wordpress for not being legit wordpress or something
If you modify a trademarked product and sell/distribute it, you can't use the trademarked name to describe it unless you get permission to do so.
unsurprisingly, it turns out to be vastly more complicated than that
Unless you refer to something other than violation of a trademark, I'm curious to know how it's more complicated than that?
WP was explicitly not a trademarked term
I haven't stumpled upon anything that complained about the use of the letters WP.
What do you think the trademark claim against WPEngine is exactly?
New blog smell, most likely
There does seem to be confusion among WPEngine customers from exhibit document. Whether they are in violation of the trademark or not is up to a judge to decide on. WPEngine have recently been doing a lot of changes on their website to clarify that they are not Wordpress. That does not automatically make them in violation, but it indicates that there were areas where they could have been more clear in their communication to customers.
explain to me your understanding of nominative use, for a start
(or, preferably, don't)
That would be if WPEngine sold hosting of an unmodified Wordpress codebase.
you're on matt's legal team right
what... what exactly do you think people like dreamhost and bluehost and such do? in your mind, do they have special dreampress and bluepress "vendored" versions of wordpress?
good lord
I'm only talking about trademark law. I'm not arguing what's morally right or wrong, that's a subjective perspective. I'm not able to tell if Dreamhost and Bluehost are violating the trademark, but from what I know they are generic webhosting companies and not as easily confused with Wordpress. In my personal opinion having had a quick look at Dreamhosts page about hosting Wordpress. It seems quite obvious that they only host the Wordpress software, with prominent phrases like "optimized for WordPress" and "Recommended by WordPress.org".
photomatt? get the fuck off my instance photomatt
wouldn't that just be funny as fuck
the only way to know for sure is to do a Photography Matthew photo critique thread and see if I get a nasty letter
i'm not saying he's been sockpuppeting on the orange site, i'm just asking
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lul