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When you connect a new device to a 'smart' tv, you must pay homage to the manufacturer with a ritualistic dance. Plugging and unplugging the device. Turning them on and off in the correct sequence like entering a konami code.

Every time you want to switch devices, the tv must scan for them. And god forbid you lose power, or unplug something. You are granted the delight experience of doing it all over again.

I have fond memories of the days of just plugging something in, and pressing the input button. Instant gratification. It was a simpler time.

What is some other tech that used to be better?

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[โ€“] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 112 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The internet.

The internet of the 90s was wild, creative, and not as accessible. We dreamed that as it grew and became more accessible, a utopia of information and creativity would flourish.

Instead we got a bland, corporate wasteland, and free soapboxes for every shithead out there.

[โ€“] doctortofu@reddthat.com 35 points 4 months ago

Yup, most of the internet is now sadly an ad-infested monetized corporate hellhole, and as a bonus it's now rapidly being filled to the brim with AI slop, because it clearly wasn't bad enough just yet... :(

[โ€“] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 16 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Is there a solution (other than being on Lemmy)?

[โ€“] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 4 months ago (7 children)

There is a bit of a smolnet renaissance happening in niche tech and creative circles. Using IRC to socialize, reviving gopher protocol for blogs, creating lofi and pure HTML/CSS sites instead of using bloated JS frameworks. And of course, creating simple and/or federated services for media sharing.

Tell me if you'd like to know more. Additionally, my home instance is full of people with such interests.

[โ€“] bangsnooter@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would like to know more.

Mind linking some communities?

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[โ€“] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've been thinking of starting a blog to help motivate me to do more writing. For a while I felt burnt out because I knew I'd have no hope in hell of being able to do a bunch of SEO stuff to enable people to actually see if anything I write, but I've concluded that people based networks are the only way something like this will work for me. After all, most of my favourite blogs or blog posts are ones I've heard of through word of mouth.

I've not heard of gopher protocol though, that sounds interesting

[โ€“] kionite231@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

If you are interested in gopher you might also like gemini protocol.

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Webrings, decentralized networks and list of links proposed by a blogger you like. That's a good start I'd say.

[โ€“] witty_username@feddit.nl 6 points 4 months ago

Donate monthly to Wikipedia

[โ€“] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Decentralized & federated networks: Lemmy, Mastodon, Nostr, Freenet, I2P, etc

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[โ€“] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 54 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Buttons.

Everything used to have buttons and switches for things. You knew when you activated something because you could feel the button getting pressed.

[โ€“] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

That's the main reason I stick with OnePlus. The notification slider is a feature the I need on every phone.

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[โ€“] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

iPods

Google search

Netflix/streaming

Windows

[โ€“] oxjox@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

I still regularly use my iPod. Going on 20 years old! Iโ€™ve replaced the battery and swapped the hdd with an sd card.

[โ€“] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I feel like the problem is less with the technology itself and more with some of the stuff within and around it. So let me list my favourite bugbears:

  • Buttons!

Here's the thing about buttons and knobs: they are definite. When you press them, you KNOW you pressed them, you can use your finger to feel for them without activating other stuff by accident. Back in the day with my cheap-ass chinese MP3 player, I could change tracks and playlists without taking it out of my pocket just by using tact and muscle memory.

Nowadays with my smartphone even something as basic as skipping a track requires me to take it out and unlock the screen. It's like. Sure, the phone does a lot more stuff, and can stream stuff from the internet so I don't have to download every track (even if I keep a local library for my favourites in ogg format), it has bluetooth for wireless headphones, a lot of good shit -- But that little bit of user experience is just dead and buried.

Heck, my older sister tells me she used to text her friends in class without taking her phone off her pocket. Imagine! IMAGINE typing a text on one of those old phone number pads, just by muscle memory and tact! It may not be the ideal user experience, but holy shit, it was possible! Try doing anything even close to blind typing on a modern smartphone.

Another point: when something goes unresponsive on a device with just a touchscreen, you experience a confusing and annoying experience as all you have feedback-wise is the screen and sometimes it freezes and you're swiping and tapping and just praying something happens.

When a computer with keys and buttons goes unresponsive you can do the three-fingered-salute and that usually gets it to do something, and because the keyboard is a physical object, it can't be hidden from you by a crashed OS.

Nowadays even kitchen appliances are dropping buttons and knobs. My parents' dishwasher is all touch-buttons, sometimes they brush against it while walking around the kitchen and lo and behold, their butt pauses the washing cycle. Something that wouldn't be an issue with a much cheaper set of regular-ass buttons.

To say nothing of cars and the horrid security issue that fusing a tablet to the dashboard and replacing every control with just that has proven to be.

  • Customization!

Used to be, Windows 9x let you change every colour of your UI right from the built-in settings app and came with a dozen colorschemes built-in, and Windows XP came with three built-in themes and could with just some changing around (you replaced like ONE dll file, a single copypaste), support themes that totally changed the look of the OS. Nowadays you get "White" and "Black" and that's it.

And like, that's windows, a corporate-ass proprietary system for corporate jerks -- But even Linux -- Linux! the darling of nerds who like to change everything in their computers (like me!) has caught this illness -- And you'll see people defending this. Saying that having no theming support and only having users be able to change highlight colours if even that is the "right way" to do it.

On the note of customization -- In the back-then times, chat applications let you set fonts and colours to give your messages "your look", and your friends could do the same. -- Fuck! The application me and my mates used for playing RPGs by text back in the early 10s supported not just font colours, but also complete rich-text, and would let you set different colours for like, things said by a character vs. narration, resulting in an utterly beautiful formatted text.

Don't get me wrong, we use Telegram/Discord for that now and having a fully searchable archive of everything that we did and talked about is great and I wouldn't trade it for the world. But the most customization you get is -- Setting a profile picture. The most formatting you get is bold/italics.

Webforums would let you have an avatar, a user title under the avatar (that many forums let you customise!), and a signature. Nowadays with things like Lemmy you have to squint to see a person's username.

And like, it's not like there is something about the modern technologies unto themselves that prevents these bits of customisation: Computers are better at drawing shit on screen than ever, internet connectivity has only gotten faster, and we figured out 'sending some markup codes to make rich text' as a thing way back in the 80s. We lost all that simply because the people making the applications don't want to have it.

I feel like for every neat thing that new technology provides us, it takes three steps back for entirely human and not at all technological issues. ^read:^ ^capitalism^

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[โ€“] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)
  • Facebook.
  • OKCupid.
  • Reddit
  • Netflix
  • Amazon Prime Video
  • iTunes
  • Twitter
  • Patreon
  • Everything Adobe
  • Google Voice
  • YouTube
  • Most search engines

ALSO

  • MySQL
  • Redis

ALSO

  • Wordpress

ALSO

  • Vacuum cleaners
  • Refrigerators
  • Every power tool ever
  • Most cars
  • Airplanes (looking at you Boing)

ALSO

  • Apple products

ALSO

[โ€“] criticon@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago
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[โ€“] Pulptastic@midwest.social 29 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Google keyboard before they went all in on machine learning for spelling and grammar. It was freaky good at correction, then immediately fell off a cliff. It still replaces my son's name, which I type multiple times a day, with a less common name even when I type it correctly. I've removed the wrong name from the dictionary but no dice, still gets it wrong.

[โ€“] Bongles@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Android "swipe" keyboards in general are almost all terrible right now. We had it, I would get the correct word most of the time and I could do it fast. Now, no matter which one I try using - Google, Samsung, Microsoft, that FOSS one - nearly every sentence i type has some word that it gets wrong.

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[โ€“] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Car stereos.

They used to have buttons and tape decks and cd players in em. From the factory.

I donโ€™t want to do a complex install of some aftermarket thing. I want a car stereo with buttons, knobs, a tape deck, cd player, am/fm and aux input that looks like it belongs in my cars interior and is designed with the same ideas as the rest of the cars controls.

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[โ€“] bloodjinn@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You bought a samusng tv didn't you?

[โ€“] mouth_brood@lemmy.one 5 points 4 months ago

I feel this deep inside

[โ€“] oxjox@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dude. Everything?

Iโ€™m exhausted with how much stuff I canโ€™t use like I used to because a dev or manufacturer updates software. Granted, the speed of things is much improved thanks to chip technology. Software, in some cases - many cases in my experience, is getting worse.

A big one for me is music. I prefer FM radio and my own music library (digital, iPod, cd, vinyl). Because, as itโ€™s increasingly becoming the case with everything else, youโ€™re relying on someone else or some algorithm to do the thinking for you. And when you finally get used to something, they break it or add needless complexity.

Another one is cameras - they just do way too much crap now. Lots of people might find added features and improvement but for me it just gets in the way of iso, aperture, shutter speed. And then theyโ€™re outdated in five years anyway.

I still have a dumb tv from ~2012. The back lighting is starting to go and Iโ€™m terrified of getting a new one.

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[โ€“] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 20 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Analogue TV was much faster with much lower latency than digital TV.

[โ€“] coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If there's one thing I don't need from a TV, then it's low latency. The pause, rewind, and skip functions are some serious stuff, on the opposite.

[โ€“] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It was funny during the transition period. You could hear through the timing of cheers during football matches who in the neighbourhood was analogue and who was digital.

But yeah, recording features were really nice for the transition to streaming.

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[โ€“] missingno@fedia.io 9 points 4 months ago

Latency doesn't matter if you're just watching television, but it's very important if you're trying to hook a game console up to it.

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[โ€“] ICastFist@programming.dev 19 points 4 months ago (5 children)

So much. So, so, SO much.

Websites in general. More bloat, more CPU usage, worse design, less content. This is even worse for shopping sites, USAians probably only know Amazon, but people from other countries definitely know a big local name that used to have a much better site years ago compared to today.

Smart TVs are the worst. You're better off buying a shitty china android tv box than a smart tv, both will suck up and sell all your data, but at least the latter can be kept off when you don't need the "smart" part.

Smartphones. Not only the whole "LETS COPY APPLE" on hardware and software design, but also on how fast it's doing a lot of the stupidity that followed PCs: phones keep getting more powerful, programs keep getting slower and more resource intensive because ~~fuck you~~ "new features"

Ad tech. Yes, I'd glady go back to shitty popups over clickjacking, infinite redirects that don't show up on the "back" button, annoying anti-adblocks, 70% of pages being advertising and fingerprinting bloat, javascript/css having control to FUCKING HIDE AND DISABLE MY SCROLL BAR

Tinder. It was good 10 years ago, enshittification accelerated aroudn 2017. Free accounts have had a hard time getting any matches as far back as 2019, as I recall from experience. Nothing like having received "41" likes, going through 300 profiles with "nope" and not losing a single match.

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[โ€“] ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Smartphones. I used to have a Droid 4 with the slide out landscape keyboard, and that was peak mobile computing. I don't care if Swype is better than it used to be, it's no replacement for physical buttons - whenever I type anything more than a couple words long on my phone I spend like half the time deleting and retrying when it guesses the wrong word. Never had that problem typing with my thumbs.

Also, physical buttons make emulation doable on a phone in a way that on screen buttons and keyboards do not. Back when I had a physical keyboard I played games on my phone all the goddamn time - now I basically only use it as a web browser, because any other use case is painful in comparison.

I'm glad some qwerty phones are making a comeback, but they're all in the portrait orientation which has always felt way too cramped to me. A Droid 4 with a modern screen/battery/processor would be my dream device.

[โ€“] Teknikal@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think radios the fact the digital ones use much more battery and just break all the time. I think FM was higher quality as well at least in the UK.

[โ€“] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

My dad got and refurbished a vintage receiver and was showing it off to me. I asked if he was listening to a CD or a record because I'd never heard clearer audio. Nope, it was an FM station.

Blew my mind.

[โ€“] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

They can pry the radio from my 15 year old car from my cold dead hands. I want analog controls not a touch screen! Tuning should be done with a knob. Nothing more.

[โ€“] psivchaz@reddthat.com 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Video games. Don't get me wrong, there are still some great games, but the entire experience has degraded on average.

  • The inclusion of obnoxiously long, often unskippable, intro sequences with studio credits and such. There used to be maybe a logo, maybe a very short sequence at worst, and almost always skippable.
  • Most of the big budget games are intended to be a grindy slog, often to get you to spend more money on micro transactions. Fun takes a back seat to intentionally addictive but objectively less enjoyable experiences.
  • Others are intended to be cinematic experience. Some of that can be fun, but sometimes I just want something like the old Sonic or Mario games that I can just pick up, play for a bit, and put down.
  • Enjoy a game? You could talk to friends about it at school, or buy a magazine that talks about it. The experience now is largely an unregulated online wasteland... If you find a community, it may quickly be beset by people that you really don't want to associate with, posting crap that no magazine ever would have published. Except for some of the funnier magazines, which may have published it just to rightfully mock the person.

The graphics have improved. In some cases the gameplay has improved. I don't want to downplay those. I'm just annoyed with how the overall experience has gotten worse on average.

[โ€“] Corgana@startrek.website 9 points 4 months ago

Funny, I think video games, on the whole, are approaching a real golden age. Sure (like you said) if you stick to the $70 titles produced by big studios you're going to have an increasingly bad time. But the quality of ""Indie"" (but not even really since Indie studios are legit full companies now) games is rising damn-near exponentially. I personally haven't felt a need to choose an ""AAA"" title over an indie title in years and not only am I saving money but I'm enjoying my time with video games more than I ever have (including childhood!) in my life.

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[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

Anything with asbestos in it. It's just a truly amazing material, with the one catch that it happens to dangerously irritate lung tissues. Relevant XKCD.

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[โ€“] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Spend some money get an rpi or those cheapish intel boxes with an N95 or N100 processors. Install Kodi. Use smart TV as dumb TV!

[โ€“] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. I'll look into it, but tvs are one of those things I expect to 'just work'. I swear my toaster is probably next ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

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[โ€“] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Smart TVs and cae infotainnent systems, for sinilar reasons. Full of bloat, so many bugs and unreliable functioning.

[โ€“] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 5 points 4 months ago

My old Panasonic TV had a fugly but extremely speedy OTA guide. It would load, display and start accepting (rapid) input in 0.2s when you clicked โ€œGuideโ€.

My new LG - I mean, for Darwinโ€™s sake, itโ€™s like no one gave two shits about OTA programming. The guide takes 1.5s to load, then each channel row loads in, sloooowly, and scrolling is like shuffling clay tablets.

Iโ€™d take my old TV back if I could.

[โ€“] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 9 points 4 months ago

Oh

I for-real misread this, as asking what is an example of tech that actually has gotten better, because the general rule is that things become more shit over time, as capitalism gets its hands on them

I was gonna say programming languages. Having come up in the time of C++ and Java, having Python and Go and Rust around is fuckin fantastic. Even Typescript isโ€ฆ wellโ€ฆ itโ€™s not JavaScript! See, things are getting better.

Literally everything else is getting worse over time.

[โ€“] toastal@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (10 children)

XMPP > Matrix | Slack | Telegram

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[โ€“] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Depending on your definition of 'better' . In terms of repair ability and ease of maintenance, pretty much all old tech. In terms of price... There is no chance, it's insane how cheap tech has gotten.

The power consumption of old stuff is also extremely bad compared to now. So yeh you can have fridges, washing machines, or whatever appliances from the 70's that still work and are easy to maintain.. They use way, way, way too much power for what they do. In an ideal world where energy is free, sure that stuff is better. We don't tho.

Also, basically everything that uses software while it shouldn't, has a worse user experience than before.

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[โ€“] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 7 points 4 months ago

Most electric appliances in the second version. Always some lock-in anti repair bullship.

[โ€“] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

I remember back a decade or so ago when phones had a fully customizable ringtone option, wouldn't constantly tell you they're overheating when it's only thirty degrees out, had a block function that actually worked, didn't dump spam calls on you, wasn't always spying on you, and didn't cost so much per month, often coupled with the possible fact you don't actually use it everyday and maybe only have it to keep your overworried parents pleased.

I don't know about you, but for the unforeseeable future, mine is, for the large part, ghosted. I remember being in a dispute with someone where they asked what my number was as a form of feeling secure about me. "What age do you live in" he bitterly asked, "everyone uses a phone, are you a fake zoomer who is BSing me". This is the pedestal the existence of phones thrives on. Imagine if I was Amish, do you think I would survive past the job interview stage of finding a new job?

Even when I had high hopes, the way people would market the thousand-app aspect of it was absolutely fierce, you couldn't go tech shopping without the person selling you stuff going on and on about the smallest nook and crannies in each extra feature like they were Steve Irwin trying to teach you the beauty of whatever animal you just happened to step on (RIP Steve Irwin), and you couldn't do so much as go to a festival without a business person from the phone stall running up to you asking to pay for new plans like a Jehovah's Witness on a leash (always stood out to me because they were the only ones who would operate like this).

Phones today are borderline what they are in Futurama.

[โ€“] SteposVenzny 5 points 4 months ago

I have a smart TV and, while I hate that fact with every fiber of my being, I've never been through any of the particular bullshit you're describing. I absolutely can just plug a thing into it and it works when I switch to that input.

I'm going to go with video game console disk trays. Back on the PS1 and GameCube, you just hit a button to release a lock and then a spring popped the lid open. Now, I'll admit these newfangled interior conveyor belts we've had for checks calendar almost two decades have never actually broken on me, I resent the fact that if they were to break then I'd have no actual ability to get disks in and out of the machine.

That is, of course, assuming your console has an option for physical media at all, which is a very troubling direction in itself.

[โ€“] Unbeelievable 4 points 4 months ago
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