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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, upvoting good contributions and downvoting those of low-quality!

Rules

0. Only post socialist memes

That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here

Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.

2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such,

as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.

3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.

That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).

4. No Bigotry.

The only dangerous minority is the rich.

5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)

6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

7. Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

(This is not a definitive list, the spirit of the other rules still counts! Eventual duplicates with other rules are for emphasis.)

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[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

Shareholders Uber Alles

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget depression, anxiety and thought crime caused by social media addiction

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All communist social-media addicts are always hsppy for the rest of their lives, of course! The addiction can't be the issue, it has to be capitalism!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey, I became a lot more hopeful for the future after reading Marx. Capitalism does indeed suck, but it's unsustainable.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The problem Marx didn't foresee is that capitalism can sustain itself until it destroys us all. In Nazi Germany, this left the country a bombed out pile of rubble. In modern times, it's global warming.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Marx definitely foresaw that possibility, his conclusions are more that if there aren't grand wars or famines eliminating everyone, Capitalism itself cannot last forever, which is far more comforting than assuming socialism can vibe itself into existence.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is made by actual communists, so let's not pretend communism would somehow fix that.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yea, these are the real communists, not like all those other communists, with their fake communism.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

Well, if you ask any communist, they’ll tell you that real communism has never been tried, which implies that all other communists are fake.

[–] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 7 points 3 months ago

preach it fam

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 6 points 3 months ago

Where's that one meme when you need it lol

tyranny.gov ❎

tyranny.com ✅

[–] CableMonster@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The US has the largest government in the history of the world, it is not remotely pure capitalist.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago

It's absolutely Capitalist and additonally Imperialist. Having a government doesn't mean it isn't Capitalist, especially if the bourgeoisie controls the state, rather than the proletariat.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who do you think the US government works for?

[–] CableMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Many of them work for the rich, some of them have integrity, but most are just in it for their own power and benefit.

[–] Cube6392 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Power and benefit, also sometimes referred to with the term "capital"

[–] CableMonster@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not really, its more control of people. The ability to feel power over a domain.

[–] Cube6392 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which is a form of capital. Our politicians use that power for monetary profit. That shits just intrinsic to building an entire system with capitalism at it's heart like we been doing since the late 60s

[–] CableMonster@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

You are shoehorning the word capitalism in there.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Fuckin' A right.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Well as long as we'll have guns then things can be turned around...

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago

It can be done with guns or it can be done without. Can is the magic word here, and guns are optional.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

You’re gonna need a nuke, big guy. You aren’t taking on the American military with your lil pea shooter.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

Is anyone on Lemmy worried about socialism?

Who is this for?

[–] anarchotaoist@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So "Capitalism" ( by which you mean crony Corps in league with government - a socialist system) took away socialist 'benefits' - huh. Are you sure you are looking at the right end if the stick?

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?

[–] rah@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Looks Pension and savings look like they're all there. Looks Still employed. Looks Still have free health care. Looks Still seem to be churning out graduates with pace. Looks No debt.

🤷‍♂️

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where's do you live that you have a pension and free healthcare?

[–] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

The golden palace in their mind.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You don’t have free healthcare, unless you don’t live in America. And if that’s the case, your comment means nothing.

[–] schwim@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

And if that’s the case, your comment means nothing.

That's not very socialist of you.

[–] rah@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

your comment means nothing.

WTF?!

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

Skinny tails on bell curves always exist.

[–] partizan@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I dont think the FED + state which printed 70% of USD money supplies during covid years has anything to do with capitalism and free market... They are anti free market and capitalism if anything...

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's simple, a State in Capitalist society serves the interests of the Bourgeoisie and defends Capitalism.

Capitalism naturally destroys free markets.

[–] Cube6392 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People miss that Adam Smith in his writing was arguing in favor of small enterprise and in favor of the government busting up monopolies

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Yep, then Ricardo and later Marx built up on his theory.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In most places under the American empire's control to varying degrees.*

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

so only usa?, look at europe, even in brazil we have so much shit but nothing like that, and we are usa garden

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Som.. the american dream.

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At least if you lived in a socialist place before that naturally left you so helpless that you now wish for the heavy restrictions to be back because you rely on them.

"At least the walls of the prison kept me warm"...

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago