im truly dissapointed by asus' enshittification.
it used to be THE goto motherboard many moons ago
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Are there any brands left that is consumer friendly to buy from these days??
Specifically motherboards or in general?
~~I've heard a lot of good things about Asrock motherboards. And they're also about the only ones without some recent controversy (for AMD CPUs).~~
In general, I can personally vouch for Noctua.
They sent me a free mounting kit for my then 7 year old CPU cooler when I switched it over to a new PC. I've had it for 12 years now.
Edit: Never mind, looks like also Asrock aren't too great.
I don't think anyone hates noctua. That's like a free bingo square, or something
I don't vouch for anybody at all but I enjoy my Gigabyte motherboard.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, there was an auto-update firmware vulnerability, a potential backdoor, a couple of years ago that affected most of the new models, but my Aero G x570 was not on the list.
I can tell you bad things about a crappy Asrock AM3 board I got a decade ago
Yeah, from what I've seen they weren't great before and have switched things up in recent years.
But I haven't had any personal experience with their boards.
Honestly, I've had nothing but good luck with Asrock. The few times I've needed at MB replacement (one was for a 2 year old board that had a known issue, Intels fault, not theirs) they just sent me a replacement board after I sent mine in.
Its probably been 5 years since I've had to use thier RMA process, but I'm still putting Asrock boards in everything I build. I build for pretty much all my friend and family circle (probably 3-8 builds a year) and I don't know of any that have had an issue so far (they would for sure come back to me for help if they did).
Taichi is such a great enthuaist line and Steel Legend is a great mid range. I'll always recommend them.
I don’t have much experience with Corsair, but when one of my fans on my AIO went janky, they sent me a label and then shipped me a newer model that looks brand new.
…it’s going in another machine, as my compy now has a D15
There's Supermicro and Tyan, but they're...a different market.
Gigabyte Aorus maybe? Some years ago I sent in my MB that suddenly stopped working via the store I bought it from. No issues. Repaired and fully functional since.
I sent in another one after for a very weird issue. Long story short, I think something is slightly broken with the RAM slots but since it happens "only" sometimes (depends on how hardware is plugged in; and also randomly), they could not find any problem and sent it back as "OK". So I am only partial disappointed. Process was without friction and charge.
The board that still currently drives my computer is asrock. Won't buy them again because they put the cooling fan directly below the (hot) grapics card, made accessing m.2 real shitty and were missing a uefi feature I thought was standard (from gigagbyte; which graphics to use for init).
All my boards fall in the highend category, but not the absolute top. Also, I am in the EU.
A year or so ago ASUS repaired my video card for free that I had bought second hand and was a couple years of warranty so my limited experience with their customer service has been pleasant.
Same here. Sent back a ASUS video card for warranty service within the past couple of years. Was updated in a fairly timely fashion that they were able to reproduce my issue and a replacement card was sent to me without fuss. No issues at all.
Though there was one odd factor where I sent the card back in its original TUF branded box and it came back in a Strix box. That doesn't really impact the quality of the service though.
TL;DR: Asus pulls the same crap with warranties today that they pulled 22+ years ago. They should be avoided at all costs.
Having been through warranty hell with ASUS years ago, this doesn't surprise me.
Such an unethical company that deserves nothing but hardship and bankruptcy.
So my experience with ASUS is that they do do this, but they do all of it. To be clear, in the video they explain that once they rejected the outrageous charge for minor cosmetic damage they did get both the reported in-warranty fix and the unreported SD card reader damage fixed. The issue here is ASUS including language that suggests you will forfeit the warranty fix if you don't accept the extra charges and attempting to charge you for superfluous fixes.
The last time I had to send something to ASUS for a fix they insisted on very detailed up-front images and they did send a bunch of confusing emails like these, but they also did fix the issues after I just chose to ignore the incongruous automated email responses.
Which is not to say I'm defending the practice. When I later had some RAM compatibility issues I chose to ping the RAM manufacturer first instead of ASUS because I knew ASUS' processes would be more of a pain, which is 100% the intended outcome.
I'm in the process of investigating a sudden overheating issue in my PC and I see this. I have an ASUS ROG motherboard and a Ryzen CPU. I'm not a hardware expert at all, but now I'm wondering if this is relevant to my situation. I didn't know about the ASUS/AMD issue.
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About 7 years ago... Friend and I built PC's about 6 months apart, him first, then me. Same ASUS motherboard. 2 years go by and his motherboard just dies. Few months later, mine dies. They honored the Warranty but the RMA process was awful. Little to no communication and it took a month for each of us to get refurbished motherboards back. I have not used a single ASUS product since.