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I'd like to think so, and I hope I'm wrong here, but probably not.
The decentralized communities are definitely going to grow over the coming weeks to years, and that's awesome and very welcome, but I don't think they'll ever reach enough critical mass to supplant the big players.
For example, a lot of people I know are fully aware Facebook sucks, but it's also the only way they are able to keep in touch with certain groups of people (family, old school friends, etc). There would need to be some coordinated effort on all of their contacts' parts to move somewhere else, and a lot of them fear losing touch with those that can't/won't make the switch. That's also not factoring in the learning curve to leave a familiar platform. I'm thinking specifically of grandparents who are on FB, but it doesn't apply just to those.
I do think there will be a steady influx of users from the big players and the content quantity/quality on Lemmy et al will definitely improve, but I feel the decentralized platforms will always remain secondary to their "big tech" counterparts.
There's also currently too many steps for users beyond "install app, turn off brain, and start scrolling". As sad as it is, that's all many people want: an app that lets them mindlessly scroll.
And, IMO, that's not necessarily a bad thing. I feel like Reddit has experienced a lot of "brain drain" the last month and more quality content is appearing on Lemmy rather than Reddit. It's been absolutely refreshing not seeing screenshots and reposts from other social media in my feed, and I think the barriers to entry for decentralized social media are contributing to that.
I agree with your overall post, but I think this part is an especially major limiting factor--the selling points of a decentralized system are also disadvantages for mass appeal for a lot of general users. Most people just want something they can open and have everything already set to go and with everything in one place. And honestly I see the appeal of that. It comes with its own disadvantages, but sheer ease of use is hard to beat, and decentralized systems that have a higher barrier of entry to access content have a leg behind on competing with an immediate one stop shop. I think the overall competition is going to be in quality of community rather than population capture. I don't see decentralized systems outcompeting in the latter category.
Insightful. I believe that some of these issues are resolvable with better onboarding, but not all of them.
What I really wonder about is how people will interpret the damage, degradation, and collapses of important web communities. Some of this will really come down to the stories we tell ourselves about what happened, and how we respond to that story to prevent it from happening again.
i agree with all of this. but, i’d also like to point out that i think i’m okay with sites like lemmy not having millions of users. even if there’s maybe less content than i’d like sometimes, and there’s not quite enough users for very niche communities to appear, i like how the quality of content here seems to be better than other major apps, and everyone is just… nicer. i feel like, if lemmy were to grow too big, some of these qualities would be lost, when they’re what makes it more enjoyable than reddit in some ways.