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As someone who knows that you have no idea what "kind of person" @kool_newt@beehaw.org is... I would suggest you don't act like you can take away someones voice on behalf of "your" category of people.
Nobody can speak for a whole race, color, creed, type, or any other aggregate of people that includes the "whole" of people. They very well could be "vulnerable" themselves and you've just dismissed their statement in the affirmative against your stance.
And to preempt it. You also don't know who/what I am. So don't bother with your crappy logic on me either.
I didn't say they weren't a vulnerable person, merely that even if they were they did not speak for us.
If they cannot represent the entire class of people... Then you can't either.
Next time just say "Don't speak for me".
Did I say I spoke for the entire class of people?
Yes... That's what "us" means.
Yeah, if I'd literally said, "I speak for us." All I said was, "You don't speak for us." Which is true. I never claimed to be speaking for anyone but myself.
They may very well speak for some. You don't know. But regardless, they appear to only be speaking for themselves. So your response of "don't speak for us" is indeed invoking the entire class.
And no, you're not speaking for yourself when you say "us" unless you've got Dissociative Identity Disorder or something of that nature... Or possible identify with "us" as a pronoun?
Otherwise... when I say "come with us" do you expect to go somewhere with me alone? or as a group? Probably the latter... and that should prove my point. You're speaking for others when you said "don't speak for us".
God. If you're this deliberately dense, there's no point in arguing with you. Enjoy whatever this shit is rattling around in your brain. Blocked.
When you finally address what was said rather than bringing up alternative points we can continue a normal conversation.
And what's the point of responding at all if you're just going to block the person you're conversing with? Do you need to get the last word in on a conversation to feel good about yourself?