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The reason for Android's Notification system being better than iOS, is solely due to the ability to turn off individual aspects of an application's notifications. (s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com)
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The reason for Android's Notification system being better than iOS, is solely due to the ability to turn off individual aspects of an application's notifications.

Google, the poor multi-billion dollar scrappy startup that maintains Android, made a payment app that has one notification setting, "Google Pay". So all the ads, promotions, everything.

3rd party apps like PhonePe & Paytm have a better system.

How do you manage to maintain this OS?

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's be honest though: Android's notification system has been better than iOS's since long before this feature was added. I'd still take Android 7's notifications over iOS's.

Though to be fair, my experience with iOS notifications in recent versions is on iPad, not iPhone. So it might be better than I think nowadays

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[–] Justly0250@lemdro.id 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Google, the poor multi-billion dollar scrappy startup that maintains Android, made a payment app that has one notification setting, "Google Pay". So all the ads, promotions, everything.

Amazon is another poor startup that does that on their Android app.

[–] jackmarxist@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Amazon first needs to learn how to make an android app. It's by far the worst experience I've ever had using an app from a big company.

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why do you need the app on your phone? Just use the website, its perfectly functional on your phone and then you're not giving them all of the data.

[–] jackmarxist@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

If you use Amazon Pay then yeah. Otherwise the website is just a better experience overall.

[–] _thisdot@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

Their iOS app is equally shit as well as

[–] thisisartman@mastodon.world 3 points 11 months ago

@Justly0250 bro don't get me started on the Amazon app. I cannot handle that amount of rage.

The fact that they've made it infinitely more difficult to find the settings in-app is just infuriating.

Good luck finding anything in the in-app settings.

[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago

That's not an accident

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

As someone with GPay installed and notify for it enabled right now:

What ads and promotions? I only ever get "you paid for this shit" notifications

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This thread prompted me to look into the Wallet notification settings. There was a setting where Google could send you notifications. I just turned those off. I don't want them, but I also can't remember ever getting one.

I don't really understand what the controversy is about. If an app abuses its notifications permissions to send me spam, I disable it. The post is right, granular notification settings in Android are great. I carry both android and iOS around every day and iOS notifications just kind of build up and periodically get cleared all at once. Too much noise in there. The android notifications are things I actually care about and want to be notified about in a timely fashion.

[–] thisisartman@mastodon.world 0 points 11 months ago

@Nath @gamermanh so, the thing I'm pissed about is that Google doesn't follow their own guidelines.

These granular notification settings are implemented by every other payment app, except for GPay.

[–] thisisartman@mastodon.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@gamermanh

This kind of promotion. Sure, it's not a frequent issue, but you're telling me you (Google) maintain an OS where everyone has to follow the rules for a certain way, except you? I call bullshit.

[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

Can also confirm I do not get ads/promotions from Google Wallet, and Google Pay isn't an app anymore, so maybe you should make sure you have a legit version. I only get the you just paid notifications, which I would want to get.

Can you show an example of the notifications you're getting?

[–] Justly0250@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago

For me it's their constant Credit Card upsell notifications.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is dev dependent, meaning iOS devs can implement it just as easily, just in an app settings page instead of the systems notification section.

Would it be nice to have in iOS? Absolutely. But it’ll always come down to the devs implementing it.

[–] lea@feddit.de 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is dev dependent, but I don't agree with "devs can implement it just as easily" at all. One only requires using a built-in API to create notification channels (which you have to call anyway), the other requires designing and programming your own page for it.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

iOS has built in app settings that don’t require any more than an entry and some plumbing:

[–] SebKra@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago

Also they're just visually bad. The bubbles have way too much spacing. The low-contrast blurry bubbles make everything feel cluttered. When expanding a group, you'll see the same app icon repeated 20 times, while the headlines are clipped. The typography doesn't feel right: headlines are too large, text styles on individual notifications are too similar and the line heights are too small. The scheduled summary was a nice idea, but again it's blurred background on blurred backgrounds. And if all of that wasn't cluttered enough, let's make everything overlap at bottom.

Apple is usually really good at this, I don't know what this particular design team was smoking.

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

And in contrast to iOS there's eg. AutoNotification. So even with some very bad and intrusive apps, like my App tracking me driving and giving discounts if I'm good, that don't allow such fine settings and refuse to work without all notifications on, you can just block specific ones. In my case it's things like status information, reminders etc.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

Until you want to use anything AOSP. They you get to use UnifiedPush with apps like ntfy

[–] snowadv@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only to find out that it creates new channel each time the old one is unavailable.

Yes, Viber?! F it - I disabled calls channel so I don't receive scam calls in it - why would it recreate it?

Proof: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lv5omRMhc9EBdv7YA

[–] thisisartman@mastodon.world 1 points 11 months ago

@snowadv because fuck you, that's why.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

You do realize Google Pay is not maintained by the same set of people who maintain android. The 1 notification option is pathetic, but you get what you get. The android apps are not maintained, so they fit and follow all of android's guidelines. If they were. You would be seeing material you theming in most of them where applicable.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't the fact that it says "All Paytem Notifications" supercede the individual selections though? I figured that's how companies were getting around the individual toggles, you either take them all, or you reject them and they'll pester you to enable them literally every time you open the app.

[–] portside@monyet.cc 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think it does, it's just a quick toggle to disable everything at once. If a category is disabled it gets prioritised.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Awesome! Thanks for that. Now maybe I can turn push notifications back on for Uber Eats and get a notice when they deliver the food, since only about 5% of the drivers will ring the bell. I turned the notifications off because I kept getting advertising pushed to my phone.

[–] zettajon@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Just turn off offers and rewards:

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I did that in the past and they reactivated it, or added a new category, or something, because I started getting spam again. I'm trying it out again now. So far, so good.

[–] bear@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

It's awesome how in the modern world we have to maintain an antagonistic relationship with the things we pay for because they constantly try to goad us into paying for more things.

[–] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Android notifications are definitely nice. I just hope they eventually get the focus functions from iOS. I know Samsung already has it but still would be nice to have a built-in version

[–] thisisartman@mastodon.world 1 points 11 months ago

@soulfirethewolf I would actually love that.
The focus mode feature is the closest I've gotten to actually enjoying something similar. But it's barely anything.

[–] menturi@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago

No way, Samsung already supports it?! Do you know what version of Android or OneUI supports it?