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The return to more traditional ways of learning is a response to politicians and experts questioning whether Sweden’s hyper-digitalised approach to education, including the introduction of tablets in nursery schools, had led to a decline in basic skills.

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[–] taladar@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not all experts are convinced Sweden’s back-to-basics push is exclusively about what’s best for students.

Criticising the effects of technology is “a popular move with conservative politicians”, Neil Selwyn, a professor of education at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia, said. “It’s a neat way of saying or signalling a commitment to traditional values.

“The Swedish government does have a valid point when saying that there is no evidence for technology improving learning, but I think that’s because there is no straightforward evidence of what works with technology,” Selwyn said. “Technology is just one part of a really complex network of factors in education.”

That seems very likely, especially considering how little control for other variables there seems to be. Obviously digital random materials from the internet can be worse than purpose made books but that is not about analog vs. digital.

[–] Mopswasser@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously, who gives a shit what alleged self-important experts say? The consensus in education shifts all the time and the studies corroborating preconceived notions are mostly hot garbage. It’s incredible how little tangible evidence there exists.

[–] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Let's listen to some politicians then instead, who are having zero insight and are virtue signalling old=better. Sounds great, I'll get my stick to beat the stupid out of these kids.

[–] Mopswasser@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course old isn’t always better. Who said so? I said above that the most important aspect is that teachers care and no amount of money can compensate for a lack of motivated teachers.

[–] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

You were ranting about "self-important" experts. You didn't even mention money or motivation.

Seriously, who gives a shit what alleged self-important experts say? The consensus in education shifts all the time and the studies corroborating preconceived notions are mostly hot garbage. It’s incredible how little tangible evidence there exists.

[–] PerCarita@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

It's not like researches into cognitive sciences or how humans learn are well funded. It's not a sexy field, like cancer treatment, or one that attracts flashy billionaires with PR problems, like space travel.

[–] Mopswasser@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am 100% convinced that all the money in the world doesn’t matter when teachers don’t give a fuck and when students’ behaviour is beyond reproach. Took my kids out of a public school that was boasting about their certificates and digitalisation etc. and sent them to a private school (no, it wasn’t expensive and certainly more efficient than the bloated corpse of public administration) that made do with minuscule amounts of money, just offered old school care and attention.

Good on Swedish kids.

[–] 0x815@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is from 2018, but still up-to-date content you may be interested in, Did Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Other Tech Billionaire Parents Advocate Limiting Children's Technology Use?

The most sought-after private school in Silicon Valley, the Waldorf School of the Peninsula, bans technical devices for the under-11s and teaches the children of eBay, Apple, Uber and Google staff to make go-karts, knit and cook. Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg wants his daughters to read Dr Seuss books and play outside rather than use Messenger Kids. Steve Jobs’s children had strict limits on how much technology they used at home.

[–] Mopswasser@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

That is, in fact, really interesting. Thank you.

[–] johnyrocket@feddit.ch 7 points 1 year ago

I think the best thing for me was not having a tablet in school. Mine was the last generation in our district not to get iPads to use in schools. One big reason I got into IT was with old school computers with barely any safety measures which made it fun to find ways around. I had no idea what I was doing, but trying to get minecraft running on it helped me discover things like VMs and dual booting which sparked my interest in computers. With these school managed iPads there is nothing to break or to mess around with. For others with no computer at home that can be experimented with, I could see it being hard to find out about such things.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The return to more traditional ways of learning is a response to politicians and experts questioning whether Sweden’s hyper-digitalised approach to education, including the introduction of tablets in nursery schools, had led to a decline in basic skills.

Sweden’s minister for schools, Lotta Edholm, who took office 11 months ago as part of a centre-right coalition government, was one of the biggest critics of the all-out embrace of technology.

Some learning deficits may have resulted from the coronavirus pandemic or reflect a growing number of immigrant students who don’t speak Swedish as their first language, but an overuse of screens during school lessons may cause youngsters to fall behind in core subjects, education experts say.

“There’s clear scientific evidence that digital tools impair rather than enhance student learning,” Sweden’s Karolinska Institute, a highly respected medical school focused on research, said in a statement in August on the country’s national digitalisation strategy in education.

Poland, for instance, just launched a programme to give a government-funded laptop to each student starting in fourth grade in the hope of making the country more technologically competitive.

To counter Sweden’s decline in fourth grade reading performance, the Swedish government announced an investment worth kr685m (£50m) in book purchases for schools this year.


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