It’s ridiculously inappropriate for climate protesters to attack museums and artworks. They should be going after car dealerships, gas stations, and the like, not creative works that have no direct impact on the environment.
this post was submitted on 09 Sep 2023
33 points (100.0% liked)
Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.
149 readers
25 users here now
Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.
As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades:
How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world:
Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:
Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
That's why I think this is an astroturf from the energy corporations. The ones organizing them are not climate activists but right wingers looking to discredit any kind of climate activism.
Oh the people there in the ground might be true believers and just dumb, but someone is funding and pulling their strings.
As much as I'd love to believe you're right, I can't rule out "sheer ignorance" from the equation... I've talked to climate activists who were truly detached from reality. For instance, one thought the only use of "nuclear" was in context to weapons, seemingly ignorant of it's peaceful uses for energy.
Here's the thing: people tried those. A lot. It had essentially no impact and got little to no press coverage.
Can you give an example?
Thr valve turners who shut off pipelines in the US. Several cases of people halting coal trains in the US and Austria. Refinery blockades in the UK. Paint-based stoppages of private jets. These things are happening routinely but nobody heard about them
I only see three Valve Turner incidents listed in Wikipedia, the most recent of which was four years ago.
Anyway, my suggestions weren’t pipelines or trains out in the middle of nowhere. If they want publicity they should glue themselves to the entrance to a car dealership.
People who support museums tend to be relatively progressive, so all the protesters are accomplishing is to alienate people who likely agree with them.
Partially true but not completely true.
I think there’s a fair point to be argued that “carrying on as normal” is part of our existential crisis too, even if it doesn’t directly involve fossil fuels. We are woefully unaware of this.
It gets little to no press coverage when you do that. Th nmbm pmlpph mm. Pgmpkmmzaq vCard
They mentioned previous demonstrations damaging artwork but don’t list any examples. Where did that happen? The ones I know of were just paint on cases and similar.
This truly makes me sad. The Gardener museum is a gem that helps make Boston a wonderful place to live. If anything, these are the kinds of beautiful places that make dense urban areas, which are objectively better for the climate, more attractive to live in.