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On a whim I decided to give the official app a try because a lot of people will be forced to use it, if they decide to stay on Reddit.

Holy hell, it's just slow. Can't scroll through a subreddit without annoying hitches and stutters. Comments aren't any better also.

On the other hand, Sync is just fucking gorgeous and runs immensely better than the encumbered official app.

How can apps made by small teams or even a single person be better optimized than one supposedly made by a larger team with a larger development budget?

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Give it a one star on the way out!

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They'll just pay Google to up it again.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

make them pay

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

At least it will cost reddit money

[–] D-ISS-O-CIA-TED@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the reminder

[–] corytheboyd@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A single competent, seasoned app developer can not only replace hundreds of engineers, but vastly outperform them. But. Only when the vision is clear. Apollo, Sync, etc.? Extremely clear vision, it is a Reddit client, everyone knows what a good Reddit client should be, so a competent developer can make it happen, it’s just a function of time and money.

Businesses work differently, especially VC backed businesses. The actual app to such a business doesn’t matter, what matters is:

  1. Is it making us money?
  2. Next year, will it make us twice as much money?
  3. In two years, will it make us five times as much money?
  4. Ad infinitum (pun intended)

The shit that ruins the official app is shit attempts at the above. Because again, the app does not matter.

[–] TheEntity@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The people that stay never knew they could have something better. It's like people that don't mind the ads, on Reddit or otherwise. If they never got exposed to the pre-ads Internet or to a good ad blocker, they don't even know they could complain about this experience.

[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's crazy to me that people still don't know of adblockers in 2023 but there's an absolute shit-ton of those people.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember that a lot of people are on mobile. Android's standard browser doesn't allow you to install adblockers anymore, last I checked. Doubt safari does either.

Safari allows you to install adblockers, there's multiple options too. Most vpns these days also come with adblock even if your browser doesn't allow it.

[–] Ni@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So I found the official app awful and insanely slow, I always assumed it was my phones fault though. Literally gave up on things loading several times.

Happy to be on kbin instead!

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their web app is trash too, old.reddit was the only way to use it on browser IMHO

[–] Crayon8027@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

The worst part of the redesign is how slow it feels. I also noticed how cluttered everything looks on the redesign. The buttons below the titles are unnecessarily big. The multicolored flairs are very distracting. Some flairs are basically an entire sentence long, others have emojis. It makes reading the post titles extremely difficult.

[–] May@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Don't download it just to try! It has trackers be careful. Is better not to ever download it really.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried it over a year after its initial release, thinking they’d have time to sort out the biggest problems. I thought other redditors were possibly exaggerating, or recalling their experiences with an earlier version. It couldn’t be that bad, right?

Yeah, it could. Wow. They’re trying to encourage people to use an app that’s utter shit. It’s an… interesting strategy.

[–] Lippy@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Sync is so good, it's what I use(d) Reddit with. Good news is that Sync isn't dead, it's being reborn with support for Lemmy.

https://teddit.net/r/SyncforLemmy/comments/14ee1ul

Edit: Redirect link to old Reddit for sanity.
Edit2: Redirect link again to avoid Reddit altogether thanks to aidenxy's better solution.

[–] alpsacka@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just took a look at the app page on the iOS app store and... the average review is 4.8/5? How is that possible? It's awful!

[–] waysuperyuck@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

@alpsacka

@Thalyssa

Because when they write a review, normies are reviewing Reddit, not the app. They don’t even know third party apps exist.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

A lot of content on reddit is posted by bots. Votes are often bots generated. Comments are increasingly bot generated. Especially in the larger subs, and when it comes to (international) politics.

When reddit was new, reddit they used bots and fake accounts to make it seem less empty. Huffman has admitted this publicly and in interviews.

With this whole API debacle, I've seen numerous identical comments about not using third party apps, so reddit.com is almost certainly using bots to swing the narrative on the API too.

Have a guess why the average review of the app is high? Even ignoring the people who aren't rating the app but reddit itself, it's almost certain that that rating is rigged.

[–] nepenthes@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Spez editing? lol

[–] Criton@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use Relay Pro for Reddit (which is fantastic) but obviously that won't be viable in a week. I go on maybe once a day for 5 minutes just to see the state of the protests but I get annoyed about how many subs just appear to be 'back to normal'. Of course, after next week I expect that to change.

[–] FermatsLastAccount@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that they bought AlienBlue, worked on it for 10 years, and made it so much worse is crazy.

[–] Madison_rogue@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Odds are they didn't work on AlienBlue...only shelve it for their own UI.

[–] XPost3000@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yup, that's why I switch to Infinity like a year or 2 ago

Seriously hoping for Infinity for Lemmy 🙏

[–] fatalError@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Infinity is so nice. So much customisation and fluidity. It would be really nice to get it for lemmy

[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Same Infinity has been one of my first install apps for years

[–] OctoFloofy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Hopefully there will also be apps for kbin. Right now i mostly hear about lemmy.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Shitty site, shitty app. It builds the brand, Leels!

[–] WytchStar@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Reddit's priorities aren't the same as someone developing an app for ease of use, readability, accessibility, etc. Reddit only cares about the backend tech that helps them control and serve ad space. And if you want to believe the bts tea that recently spilled, Reddit doesn't even structurally prioritize coding and development in the first place.

I was an rif die-hard. Such an elegant, useful app. It's nothing like its source site.

[–] kemsat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The apps made by small teams and solo devs can be better because large teams at companies can get bogged down by politics & greed.

[–] Haunting_Tale_5150@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used Narwhal most of the years I used reddit, it also had ads like the official app, but the difference is it ran so much smoother for many years! Main reason why I switched off it was slow development was causing it to become a bit buggy, not the ads.

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[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never used a 3rd party app. Was very happy with the official reddit app as recently as a few months ago.

Now that I'm reading this, I have to ask, did reddit push through some updates to make it extra crudy or something? Worse, did they just do it a week before 3rd party apps have to shut down?

[–] speechie_bird@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have to say I am also surprised at the number of people that claim the official Reddit app is garbage. I switch between the official and 3rd party apps. I’ve never loved the official app by any means, but it’s functional. Just as any social media app is nowadays.

The perspective I understand is people who use 3rd party apps for greater accessibility options. The official app is severely lacking in its accommodations for people with disabilities. That’s why I have stopped using Reddit.

[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

For sure. Can see a lot of skepticism that the upcoming accessibility and moderation updates will be enough - or even be the right ones, see for example https://teddit.adminforge.de/r/modnews/comments/14he7nz/accessibility_updates_to_mod_tools_part_1/

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I tried using it for a few months. I was using Sync and got a new phone, decided to give the official app a shot and I had a miserable experience. Ended up using RiF the last few years and have zero desire for the kind of user experience the official app provides.

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[–] sentient_loom@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

How can apps made by small teams or even a single person be better optimized than one supposedly made by a larger team with a larger development budget?

Bloat!

[–] Chronoman@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

The thing that killed the official Reddit app for me was the battery drain. It felt like three hours of browsing would be enough to drain my phone's battery. Also the video player was trash. So I jumped on a third party app. I later deleted it, as I felt I was spending too much time on Reddit, and stuck to accessing it on web browser more sparingly. Then I hear that Reddit is experimenting with preventing people from using a mobile browser to access it... Yeah, I'll break from them before I bend for their IPO.

[–] yarr@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The real question is... how many ads did you see?

[–] Thalyssa@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

At least one promoted post everywhere.

Plus most of them are garbage crypto pump and dump schemes.

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