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The Fediverse requires federated thinking as well as federated technology. Critical thinking can be hard when its been so easy to just consume what you've been fed without question since you were born.

I think once adding communities from outside your instance becomes a little easier we'll see that. A lot of newcomers had some trouble figuring out how federation works and went where a lot of the activity was

I made an account on lemm.ee, thought it was a bad idea since all the communities were on .world. After this whole fiasco though, I'm happy with my decision.

DISPERSE

Yes please! Lemmy.world and lemmy.ml shouldn’t make up the majority of my feed.

I think best case scenario, you have themed instances based around art, tech, politics, news, gaming, food, etc, and the largest communities are hosted there. Then you have “catch all” instances like lemm.ee which federate with everything, there can be as many of these instances as needed as the user base grows. These types of instances should be where the bulk of the new user accounts go, assuming just an average user looking for a /all replacement. Curated instances like beehaw allow for a more fine-tuned experience, but should still function basically as a catch all and not as “hosting the content” instance.

However I understand that building up to that is damn near impossible with the current infrastructure. We would basically need a means to migrate an entire community to a new instance, while simultaneously updating everybody’s subscriptions to reflect the new home of the community.

Think we need universal/transferrable accounts to make this happen. People, myself included will be concerned that if they sign up to a tiny instance someone's hosting on a raspberry pi or something that it'll just disappear without a trace one day and their account along with it

If accounts were made portable I think a lot more people would disperse

Which is why identities and communities on Fediverse should be cryptography-based, and an "instance" should simply be a sort of a supernode, or a caching node.

3 words SINGLE USER INSTANCES

It kinda makes me wish that instances were forced to be single-topic, or even single-community, and that authentication was key-based so that you didn't need to "make" an account on a single instance.

Every country should have their own instance and people should sign up to the server that's closest to them or that best fits their privacy concerns.

I would love to see more federated social media servers in Switzerland for example.

If everyone was spread out onto different instances

Each instance with an owner/operator making rules... that the average social media user walks in, orders a drink, and starts smoking without any concern that neither one may be allowed. People can be loyal to their media outlets even when it is beyond obvious they are bad. People raised on storybooks that endorse bad behaviors and values, HDTV networks, and social media too. Audience desire to "react comment" to images and not actually read what others have commented - nor learn about the venue operators and reasons for rules is pretty much the baseline experience in 2023.

Their recent actions have convinced me to move to another instance

Correct me if this is already a thing, but it would be nice if you could post to multiple communities at once and have users see comments across all communities and instances. So a user posts “A” on instances X, Y and Z all under communities run on those instances at the same time. When making the post, you select ehich communities the post goes to instead of just one. Users on instances X, Y and Z see it as a single post it appears in all of the communities the user specifies. A limit might be useful here to prevent trial spam. A user commenting on the post in instance X will be seen on the other instances and communities where that post was made.That way, you could remove the centralisation on instances and communities (one community or instance might remove the thread, but everybody else still sees it and each others comments in the remaining communities/instances.) This has a few advantages:

• People are incentivised to post to smaller communities knowing that larger ones will also get the same post and everybody can see each others comments.
• If a moderator of a community removes the post, it still disappears in their community, but not the whole instance. If the thread still exists in other communities in the same instance, users of that instance can still participate in the post on those communities.
• If the post is banned instance-wide, it is banned across all communities in the instance at once. This could include non-local communities.
• Users in other instances will still be able to see the post and continue contributing to it. You can only remove the post from your own instance.

I do still see value in a general landing page for new lemmy users, but this whole thing has really shown me that it should not be anything like this. .ml and .world have done a lot of work becoming the "big" instances and now they have a taste for censorship (and have most the users) I doubt it will get better.

Can I move a community from one server to another or do I have to delete the old one and recreate it elsewhere? Because I have a community on .world and would like to move it somewhere else, probably feddit.de

Join a local instance, and then don't forget to donate to it

I assume op runs an instance, then?