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Trying to de-google and looking for an alternative to Gmail.

Don't mind if it's a paid service if it's robust.

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[–] Matt@lemdro.id 106 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Last I checked, the encryption in Proton Mail means you have to use their app, no third party apps allowed. Is that still true?

[–] Matt@lemdro.id 11 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's still true. If you want to be able to use a third-party mail app, I would look at Fastmail or Mailbox.org. They don't have free plans though.

[–] JoyfulCodingGuy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Phone app? Yes you have to use their own app. On a computer besides the browser version you can use Thunderbird and other applications if you download ProtonBridge.

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[–] hoodlem@hoodlem.me 41 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I use Proton Mail. I recommend that whatever service you decide on, get your own domain name so you can keep your email address if you move to a different provider.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try proton mail. I love it

[–] i_am_hungry@meganice.online 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I'll go Proton. Was going to go with Fastmail but then read that they're an Australian company, a Five Eyes country.

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 39 points 1 year ago

I'm using ProtonMail and paying for it.

It's decent. The best AFAIK in terms of privacy. Supports labels etc.

The migration process takes so long, I'm split between both still and slowly moving over.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Idk I'm still using my Hotmail that I got in 1995 so...

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[–] Lewistrick@feddit.nl 26 points 1 year ago

I'm using Proton Mail and I like it a lot!

[–] mertn@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago

I also degoogled to proton. Now one bill for VPN, drive and my own domain email address.

[–] jao@lemy.lol 22 points 1 year ago
[–] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • Tutanota
  • Protonmail
  • Mailbox.org
  • Posteo.de
  • Runbox
  • Fastmail

I would recommend either Mailbox or Posteo simply because they cost 1€/m. For email I find that anything more than like $2 is a waste of money, but that is my opinion.

Both Tutanota and Protonmail offer freemium versions of their services.

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[–] jtsk2009@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

Proton is my fav non Google email.

[–] lastweakness@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Skiff or Protonmail.

Skiff gives you 10 GBs of storage and also comes with a drive and a Notion-like Pages app. They even let you add custom domain for free. The only disadvantages are the non-native Android or iOS apps that just feel off and the limits on folders and filters.

ProtonMail only gives 1GB of storage and stuff like custom domains, aliases, etc are all paid features. The Android app is decent but missing some basic features that you only notice when you actually use it (select and delete when searching for example). Definitely the most robust mail service there is though. With Proton Unlimited, you also get stuff like per-site aliases using SimpleLogin, Proton VPN, Proton Drive, Proton Calendar and Proton Pass. But if I'm being honest, only the Mail and VPN are truly complete products.

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[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] skadden@ctrlaltelite.xyz 17 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I moved to Fastmail last year and it's been entirely unremarkable which is exactly what I want. Mail in and out works, it's reliable, I have my custom domains.

It really depends on the level of privacy you're going for and what features you want. For me I needed custom domain support with catchalls. The only other requirement I had was to not be Google. I debated between Fastmail and Proton for a while (Fastmail for features/price, Proton for the "better" privacy.) Ultimately I ended up on Fastmail because I would have had to pay for a higher than necessary account at Proton for what I wanted.

[–] Tilted@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I have been using Fastmail for a few years. No complaints. No issues. Entirely unremarkable.

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[–] unagi@feddit.nl 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve been on Fastmail for several years and like it a lot! It lets you use you own domain name as well. Their app is not particularly great, but you can hook things up with the default iOS/Android/whatever mail app just fine.

[–] dax@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

I agree, I'm a happy customer for several years as well. It's not the cheapest service, but it's no-nonsense and reliable.

I pointed my own domain to Fastmail and can use wildcard email addresses (like lemmy@mydomain.com) that all end in my inbox. Also my contacts are synced on the phone with Fastmail using CardDAV support, using the DAVX5 app on Android. It's really nice to have this much flexibility.

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[–] TopHat@compuverse.uk 16 points 1 year ago

Gotta go for ProtonMail. Have been running it for a year and I kinda like how it's doing.

An additional feature is SimpleLogin's "Hide My E-mail" Aliases, which are "burner" e-mail addresses to use with pre-determined SimpleLogin domains (you can add your own domains as well to go around Proton's custom domain limit). Those are included in the full suite and Family subscriptions. (10 a month when subscribing for a year)

There's also a cheaper variant for 3.50 a month but it lacks the SimpleLogin feature. You can get SimpleLogin seperately for 30 a year, however.

[–] Myro@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Paid Fastmail User here since around half a year. Did extensive research on what provider to use and trialed fastmail for four weeks before buying. I went for a 3 year period. Fastmail has a fantastic set of features.

There are providers that are focused more on privacy (e.g. PGP. encryption, not being based in Australia) but that was not my top priority.

I have created a lengthy guide as part of my transition: I published the Markdown file to Fastmail at this link (it is a text file). As it was initially written just for myself, the format might not be very readable :)

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[–] Kayel@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protonmail

It has all the bells and whistles, is privacy protecting, and is free to use

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fastmail is great and has very fast user interface and lots of nice features, such as email address aliases you can create with a button click or integrate it with Bitwarden etc.

It costs money though, just so you know if you want "free" (nothing is really free).

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

Been using Proton mail a couple months now. Very happy with it.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're moving your email address consider using a mail alias. If you move again in the future it will make the process a whole lot easier as you won't need to go to all your sites to update your email address. You only need to update the one email address with the alias provider.

I use simplemail with my own domain

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 1 year ago
[–] resurge@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been using Zoho mail for a few years now with my own domain linked to it and it works flawlessly for less than 12€/y. (less than 24€/y if you also add the domain cost)

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[–] Rinnarrae 12 points 1 year ago

Been steadily moving things over to Proton. Originally got it for the VPN, then eventually started to use it as a replacement for gmail when applicable.

[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Not for everyone, but self-hosting isn't so bad.

[–] ProperlyProperTea@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I've found it to not be worth the hassle. I think it really isn't worth it for a very select few people who are super dedicated to self hosting it.

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[–] ben@lef.li 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago

I tried tutanota but I found it too cumbersome. I prefer Proton

[–] lossykittens@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been really appreciating Fastmail. It’s paid, but I was finally able to leave Gmail behind

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[–] sol@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Proton and Tutanota are the most privacy-focused ones, offering zero-access encryption. The flipside is that they are a bit more expensive and less easy to use with third party email clients.

There are a number of alternatives like mailbox.org, Posteo and Fastmail which are cheaper, and less private than the above two but arguably still better for privacy than Gmail (in that their whole business model isn't built off capturing and monetising your data).

Personally I use mailbox.org and have no complaints. I use it with third party clients like Thunderbird for desktop and FairEmail for Android so can't speak to how good their web UI is.

I also strongly recommend getting your own domain name to use with your email. It means if you ever want to switch providers in future you won't need to change your email address.

[–] matthew@lemmy.woodward.tech 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Mailbox.org is what I've used for a long time, before protonmail even existed. The mailbox.org servers are powered 100% by solar energy too!

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[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mailbox.org

Its cheap and a single xsolution for replacing mail, calendar, contact sync, cloud drive, task list, etc.

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[–] Arn_Thor@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I was doing the same research a few years back Fastmail was recommended to me and I’ve been very happy with it. It was fairly easy to set up with an email address from my own domain too.

[–] antony@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

In no particular order: Fastmail, Proton, ~~Outlook~~, ~~iCloud~~, ~~Yahoo~~, Gandi (free if you buy a domain), I've heard Hey is ok, but haven't used it.

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proton mail (if you wanna exclusively use it pay for it), tutanota and any eco focused one. if you wanna keep using some Gmail accounts use k-9

[–] mikwee@lemmyverse.org 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] baggins 6 points 1 year ago

Proton Mail

[–] fleetfoot@feddit.it 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned PurelyMail. Its technically in beta, but I've been using it without issue since the beginning of this year (2023).

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Check out posteo. It costs €1/month (you can pay more for extra aliases). Seems like a cool company, and you can use it with your own email apps (Thunderbird, K9, etc).

[–] Krulsprietje@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can always pay for your own mailserver. I personally like it that people can reach me a hello@firstnamelastname.de. Maybe it is something for you?

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you actually host your own mail? Because everyone tells me not to do that, it's too much of a hassle and that there are mail services where I can use my own domain.

[–] Ghoelian@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

I used to host my own mail server. Getting it up and running with iredmail wasn't too difficult, but maintaining all of the different components and setting up spam filters and autodiscover and stuff like that is an absolute nightmare.

I just use proton mail. I can point my dns to them, and they do everything else for me.

Only downside is that they don't expose pop3 or imap, so you have to either use their app, or set up their bridge and host that locally.

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