Can they please just bring back actual buttons instead of invisible tap points where you can't tell where the fuck they are?
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I have been reading about MicroLEDs for years now, never bought any OLED because of the burn-in. I'm curious when MicroLEDs will actually hit the mass-market and at what price-point and also how they will scale for smaller screens.
I am going to skip LCD tvs altogether. Right now I am still using my first hd tv, a Plasma TV from 2008, and when I replace it, it will likely be with an OLED.
Are you long time friends with my dad or something lol
OLED's are just the way to go.
Man I'm still rocking my Samsung plasma TV from 2011. No need to heat the house with the amount that TV gives off but still works great.
I have an old Viera 50 inch Plasma, it chews like 240W while running but has not skipped a beat in the 13 years we've had it
Panasonic plasma guy from 2006 has entered the chat.
LCD TVs can still improve via faster refresh rates, strolling backlights, and smaller local dimming zones. If the last part can be made small enough, then it would be very hard to tell the difference between an LCD screen and a emissive display. These facts shouldn't be ignored by display companies.
The problem is that we are reaching a point where it is cheaper to achieve the same or better results with OLED or microLED than by dumping even more money into improving LCD.
We are already at a point where OLED provides a straight up better value than LCD in higher end price brackets as long as peak brightness is not your #1 priority.
I'm going to have see a display that truly solves the burn-in problem before making that proclamation.
I'd love to have an OLED tv. I just need a good reason to get one. The tv I have now works just fine (unfortunately).
An "accidental" hammering can fix that real quick like.
Let me try to improve it. That thing will be broken in no time.
Mine flickers when room temp is above 75 and gets jacked at 78.
The G3 is looking extremely appealing in all dimensions except price.
Your OLED is sensitive to high temperatures?
It is an LCD. The temperature sensitivity is the main board starting to fail.
I bought this is 2015, so it is about time to get a new TV.
I, too, won’t replace something until it dies. Even if an upgrade is long overdue.
Aren't MicroLED displays LCDs?
No, you’re thinking of LCDs with miniLED backlighting
I bought a QLED LCD 8k Samsung in 2019 and tbh it’s an incredible display because of its high nit count, local dimming zones and AI upscaler.
I’m a bit out of the loop, can these new technologies go to that resolution yet?
That's incredible! Is there a noticeable difference between 4k and 8k? What do you use it for?
Not OP but one benefit to 8K is that it evenly scales into not only 1080p and 4K, but also 1440p and several other resolutions. So although 8K content doesn't really exist, if you game a lot at 1440p, it can look cleaner than a 4K TV
Primarily gaming but also anything looks astounding on it above 1080p, lower resolutions than that though aren’t upscaled great but I never watch content that low res anyway. Refuse to. Mines using LED backlights too, since then Samsung have released Neo-QLED that is even better and brighter than mine.
Honestly on my TV lights look real, headlights on cars, the sun, torches, flames all look like it’s just a pane of glass in front of me. Almost blinds you, never had that experience with a TV previously. To me it’s better than cinema screens.
Brightness in terms of nits is really important, and something the OLED diehard fans don’t seem to appreciate. I get the blacks too with the local dimming yeah not as good as OLED but close enough for me not to care.
I knew about OLED but I wanted the pinnacle of a tried and tested technology over something new.
That's pretty cool. Thanks for the extensive reply!
That's great, it means LCD TVs have hit maturation point.
MicroLED are also LCDs just slightly different backlight tech, looks like we're repeating fake LCD/LED separation from few years ago when backlight tech switched from CFL edge lighting to LED
No they're not. MicroLED displays, like OLED displays, have three LEDs per pixel and no backlight at all, but they don't suffer from most of the problems OLED displays have. This display technology should be dramatically better than anything we have right now. Read more on Wikipedia.
Fair enough. LCD is very old technology at this point, dating back to the 1960s.
Of course, LEDs aren't exactly new either, but microscopic LEDs bright enough to be used as pixels certainly are.
I really hope microLED takes off in the near future. It's basically OLED on steroids, all of its advantages without the risk of screen burn-in. It's just too expensive right now...
What about Hisense with the U8H Class are they using microled(they call it miniled)? this Tv is not that expensive compared with other brands and tbh the image quality in the high-end models are awesome.
MicroLED requires each pixel to be its own light source (same with OLED). MiniLED is marketing for a fairly dense array of backlight zones on an LCD panel.
thanks for the info!
Wow it's insane how fast technology goes. Feels like yesterday the first LCDs were releasing, but apparently not!
Nothing beats 2000's 2K CRTs.
Hopefully, that means they become much cheaper even for bigger screen sizes
Makes sense. I haven’t considered an LCD tv in more than a decade.
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