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Blowing up a Crossfield class in an episode with real Klingons weeks after we learned of Discovery's cancellation feels quite loaded with subtext. Reminds me of DS9 blowing up a Galaxy class on screen within a week of TNG ending.
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What was the magic hypo serum they used? Was it the lost Captain America serum? Or has that been referenced / used before somewhere else in universe that I don’t recall?
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Fun episode, but bits and pieces always felt a little off. Pelia was fantastic - love seeing competent non-main-characters in any sort of fiction.
Chapel/Spock... ugh. Not so much.
Whats with the wierd "Crossfield" class?
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If they had super-soldier drugs the whole time why didn't they use them against the gorn or any other combat that occurred in season 1?
Way back in 'Encounter at Farpoint' Q when dressed as a soldier of one of the armies of World War III was shown using a retractable stimulant dispenser. Not sure if the green stuff was intended as a nod towards that.
To be honest when I was watching the scene I thought I had missed something from last season. Threw me off balance for the rest of the episode.
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Presumably they have nasty side effects and the only reason they resorted to them here was because the only other option was oblivion.
I'd like to see them going through some bad consequences of using that stuff.
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I mean I've been thinking that about the entire genetic modification thing, even last season.
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God damn I enjoyed the shit out of that!
At first glance I was unsure about the new engineer but by the end of her first scene I loved her. I wish she was featured a bit more but I'm sure we will see more soon.
Spock is the man!
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What a way to start the season! I love that they're leaning hard into the TOS vibe.
There's a lot to pick apart if you really wanted to, but frankly it's hard for me to get hung up on minutae when the characters and universe are so spot on. Some good starship porn in there too. What an adventure! Gene would be more than happy with this one I think.
Was that a TOS style California-class docked next to the Enterprise early on?
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Have we ever heard of Lanthanites? Apparently they
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live such a long time they get bored and they are hiding on Earth in the 22nd century.
I wonder if they know about the El-Aurians or Q.
I wouldn't be surprised. But I love how they just created a Guinan for SNW.
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Nice episode, I was expecting a cliffhanger at the end showing what Pike was up to.
I am curious about the Lanthanites, I’ve had visitor before, like Guinan in 1890s, but a whole species living among side humans, maybe they don’t have a big population, I bet they could be the origin of many human myths. I wonder what was their reason.
Maybe It will help with Una’s trial, since both pretended to be humans.
Also, in TOS there was about an Immortal Human, maybe he was a Lanthanite and just didn’t know.
I am unsure how Lanthanites can have a distinct accent if they spent centuries successfully blending in, but I agree that it's interesting.
Structural differences in their larynx, tongue, or lips seem likely.
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Not bad, but felt very Discovery in tone and aesthetic. I'm hoping future episodes match season 1's vibe.
If my memory is correct, this episode contained more than half of the scenes from the trailers, most of which were theorized to be from different episodes.
That leaves two possibilities:
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this episode is the most interesting episode, which would be unfortunate but not unheardof for Paramount
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the best is yet to come, and we have no idea what's coming.
I choose to believe the second, for now, and I'm excited.
So, I used to work in TV marketing at the network level and I can tell you typically trailers are made up of the first three episodes or less. No real secret why though - usually the show is still working on the other episodes.
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Well here we go. Let’s try this out
I think this got things off to a reasonable start, but it doesn't feel like the strongest episode out of the gate. Maybe it's because the show deliberately chooses not take on the cliffhanger of the last season in the first episode. Starting the season with only part of the cast undertaking the mission I think also makes the episode feel a bit slight.
It's also a bit of a darker episode than the last season, but I'm not sure if engaging with the Klingon civil war aftermath is actually necessary in this episode. In fact, leaving out the Klingon stuff here would make it a bit less stodgy to me. I guess there is some curiosity as to what SNW characters were doing during the war, but it really feels like here, the only reason they framed this entire episode around the war was so that M'Benga and Chapel could juice themselves up with a substance that they never quite introduce before using it and Die Hard Klingons for a chunk of the episode. There's maybe some M'Benga trauma, but giving the character another trauma moment where some (particularly Ortegas) remain comparatively lightly characterized feels...meh.
It's probably all the Discovery elements, both in plot and in set design on screen, that make me feel this way, but I was hoping that Discovery would learn the best lessons from Strange New Worlds. This episode has me slightly worried that instead of that, Strange New Worlds may be learning some bad lessons from Discovery. That said I'm hoping things get better across the season. I thought this was good but just not quite what I wanted from the season opener.