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[–] RustyRaven@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hopefully we can find a way to get these onto rental properties as well. Having the uptake of renewable energy strongly tied to home ownership is a problem when the rates of home ownership are falling.

[–] bykle@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard about some pretty interesting ideas about a community-style Solar Garden, where you invest into a solar farm and the energy generated off that is offset from your bill. Which could work pretty well for rentals...

[–] RustyRaven@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

That's an interesting concept, I will have to look into that some more. I have seen small power co-ops developed for remote communities, but hadn't seen this decentralised approach before.

[–] Mountaineer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate the idea of legislation forcing things like this because I can already see the problems like the pink bats scheme - shoddy cheap systems that immediately fail, untrained contractors falling through roofs, installing in impractical locations like full shade...

But the slum lords will not do something that only benefits the tenants (the improved value of the property isn't of great concern to this group, the rest of the house is no doubt collapsing).

[–] RustyRaven@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I think both legislation to force installs or excessive subsidies lead to the same problems.

I don't know what the solution actually is (and I'm sure it is multiple changes, not one thing) but the way our society both priviledges home owners in many ways and also encourages profiting off owning homes that others live in (which inherently involves keeping others out of being home owners) just does not work for the good of society.

[–] withersailor@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RustyRaven@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I would be very cautious about a system like that, it can be dangerouse and/or illegal to plug into the houses system that way. I know it is definitley a no no with generators, and at a minimum it bypasses the safety systems in the meter box.

[–] vividspecter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In the long term we should have a large proportion of renewables in the grid level energy mix (and eventually very low prices) so it may not matter as much but it would be good to encourage them in the short to medium term nevertheless.

[–] poohbear@toons.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Great to see panels coming to commodity pricing - the challenge is still storage but optimistic that battery cell prices will follow suit as well

[–] Lemmy_C_That@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Let's hope so since energy prices are going up July 1st