Sysadmin

Someone should tell them that "avoiding 'politics'" is just the lazy method of supporting the status-quo rather than achieving being "apolitical".

I really don‘t get their point regarding the negative impact. A platform should never be production critical. No one should rely on it for solving production issues. That is what enterprise support is for. I think that this is just an excuse for not being bothered to participate

Overall, this is a silly take by the Mods of sysadmin.

This form of protest has proven ineffective on reddit repeatedly.

WE are the content. While I agree going dark for just a couple days is weak, it still shows a point.

Shutting down the sub on a Monday will have an adverse impact on our readers, including possible production issues.

If you are solely relying on Reddit to fix a Production issue you are not using the internet like you should be.

We have avoided reddit “politics” intentionally and will continue to do so.

By mentioning you are not going dark is being involved.

Is it a shock that r/sysadmin is run by people who's mentality is "keep the trains running"?

EDIT: Lol, they've also locked the thread calling for them to join the protest. Cowards.

Lol as if career sysadmins rely on a forum where 90% of people moan about their job, how they're the only IT person being on call 24/7/365, having abusive users.

"this doesn't ever work" vs "this will negatively impact people"... Like, tell me you don't know what a strike is without telling me you don't know what a strike is.

Absolute shit take on their part, and a 2-day blackout is the least that they could do. Everyone's systems won't go down in flames because /r/sysadmin isn't there for people to whine about how they hate their jobs for a few days. If there's some major vulnerability being exploited on those days, mainstream news and other tech news sites will pick it up.

However, they're not entirely wrong on the first point. I remembered the 2015 blackout to protest the firing of Victoria the AMA admin and other stuff about Ellen Chao (honestly don't remember or care what it was all about), and it was huge. Most subreddits went dark. Reddit didn't hire Victoria back. If I recall there was a PR statement, and everyone moved on with their lives.

When I was searching for that I found that reddit has had a handful of other blackouts since - one about the SOPA bill (which I seem to recall), another about COVID (which I don't), etc. - and as far as I can tell the most that all of those blackouts ever did was generate press.

They're already at that point - reddit's tenuous situation with their devaluation and the API nonsense has been all over the news, from Ars Technica, to CNN and Reuters. And really I don't think it's going to change anything either. Reddit's going public, the stakeholders will have their say, and the site is going to be monitized and crapified, the users be damned.

But again, going dark for 2 days is, IMO, ethically required. For that matter, they should stay dark until reddit changes course.

Oh well, now we have Lemmy. :)

This doesn´t make any sense. Their readers will be forever 'adversely' impacted when they can't access reddit through their favorite applications anymore.

One thing is to believe this will be ineffective (which I also believe) but there is another thing called solidarity. Specially when a lot of bigger subreddits are joining.

What a lack of empathy.

Shutting down the sub on a Monday will have an adverse impact on our readers, including possible production issues.

Lol

Yea that's because mkosmo is a dickwad and has been on the site for 15 years. You know damn well someone that is a top mod for a big sub is gonna be in bed with the shitty admins.

Honestly, I've been saying I'll still be on reddit for the sysadmin sub for work, at least as long as old.reddit.com exists cause I'm at a PC when I'm working. But I looked at the sub today and realized - like with /r/news ... there's way less posts and content than there used to be.

And what is posted there is low interest. Also, IDK if I've "leveled up" (like 7 years ago TBH), but my problems I'd be pushed to post about usually fly completely over the heads of most other posters on that sub. So it's not even valuable to me in solving problems unless I happen to hit on like 3 other posters who are actually as or more experienced as I am. Otherwise I get silence or "generic responses" I already know that isn't actually helpful.

So... I'm starting to think I won't miss much from that sub either. And I already had other time wasters.

I hope we get some more users on here, and people who are higher skilled (is the fediverse a "you must be this techie to ask questions filter?).

including possible production issues.

"Won't ANYBODY think of the profits? 😢"

Cowards.

I'm looking at a post saying they are going dark and even offer Lemmy/c/sysadmin as an alternative. Am I missing something?

Fuck em

Shutting down the sub on a Monday will have an adverse impact on our readers, including possible production issues.

I find this to be a compelling reason. They are providing a service to other, and shutting down could negatively impact somebody's job.

So, they want to do business with all the users they collect.

This isn't really all too surprising, as the only part of Reddit that could make an impact by going dark would be /r/all.

Shameful. Well, at least we can set up a new home here!