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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is something we really need to take on: not all value needs to be utility or monetary based. Things can have existential value, too.

Unfortunately we take the former approach with just about everything. We willingly tie our worth as a human to our work performance or some other ridiculous metric. You don't have to be the paragon of project management, or a world famous influencer to be deemed worthy. You are worthy just because you exist.

Trees, frogs, and mosses all have inalienable rights to exist, too. Since they comprise the natural world, and actually perform functions to sustain said world, they have value. Moreso, I would argue, than an exemplar of project management, or bumping up a number on the NYSE. More value than the table we could make from the trees, or the extra bit of space we could use from destroying wetland (frog) habitat.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago

Reminds me of this story. The commentary isn't really necessary, imo. The story stands without it.

https://ando.life/journal/the-useless-tree

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This implies that only children enjoy trees for their natural beauty, that is just dumb.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

beuty

That is just dumb

Uh....

That's also not what this is implying. Go make a board game about jumping to conclusions. I hear red staplers are on sale at Walmart.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then tell me what it implies when all adults in the comic wants to cut the tree down, and only the kid appreciate the beauty of the tree as it is?

[–] Alice 2 points 5 months ago

The child is someone who doesn't have a financial stake in what the tree is used for. It's narrative shorthand for innocence, but it doesn't mean "only children think this way".

Otherwise it wouldn't be encouraging the readers, presumably adults, to think that way, because it would be impossible.

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.de 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All of these views are valid. A tree has to be seen for what it can provide. If it’s more valuable to society and nature as a tree, leave it be. If other trees can gain from it being removed earlier than its natural decay demands, I’d argue to remove it.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A live tree has no value in on our financial system.

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Trees prevent soil erosion, keep water clean, provide the basis for many beneficial insects and so forth and so on. They have a giant value in our financial system.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok, now put a monetary value to that

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I‘d have to get my tables from work. It highly depends on the species, soil, size, location, age, natural area of the species and so forth. A decently sized oak at around 100-150 years old usually gets weighed in at around 2000€. Variation however is a given.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And who pays the 2000€? Is it an annual payment?

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago

It’s an investment? Just like an office building or a company car?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A live tree has no immediate quarterly value in our financial system.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This tree is by a path, so it's better to leave it be.

Other trees can be sustainably harvested and made into whatever our society needs.

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago

Depends. Is it stable? Does it pose a threat to passer bys ?

[–] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

I like how the comic becomes progressively sun bleached

[–] athos77@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago

I wanna build a tree house and live symbiotically.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago
[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

one will protect you the other will try to kill you

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago

I would imagine to set it on fire....

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

If they only get like a day of prep time, Carpenter. If it's a longterm battle, the youth.