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[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 41 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Political science? Hmm, switch to all communities and sort for new. Have fun.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Haha, the appeal of political science to me is less about arguing with strangers about the news and more talking about broader philosophies and theories and then applying them to what we are seeing in the world. I feel like I can have a more nuanced conversation about the prisoner's dilemma with regards to x topic, or applying philosophies like American Pragmatism to solving problems.

Talking about the news without using some of the tools political scientists use has so many emotional trip wires that it can feel like I'm just keeping up with the Kardashians. That said sometimes I just can't help but keep up with the Kardashians.

[–] navigatron 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is American Pragmatism a thing? If you explain it to me, will I feel better about myself?

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, it's a thing!

"You can philosophize over how many fairies fit on a toadstool all day, but if it won't help anything, what's the point?"

If you're talking politics, you need to take a step back and ask how useful your questions are. It may be tempting to try solving a conflict that has a long history by finding out "who started it", but if the answer would yield no progress in the peace process, it would be a better use of time and energy to focus on other discussions.

I've used it as an economic philosophy as well. Instead of looking at capitalism and socialism as ideologies to guide thought, look at them as tools to an end. Identify your goals for society (more educated populace, lower infant mortality, greater freedom of the press, etc.) and then look at what different perspectives bring for solutions. Sometimes you may find letting a free market take it's course is an answer. Sometimes you may find deep regulation or nationalization is the answer.

When this philosophy is applied to something more personal like religion, it would ask "is the religion that you are in helping you or hindering you?" If someone's religion gives them immense guilt and depression, it would be worth it to consider something else. If an alcoholic finds peace in a Mormon Temple, then it might just be what they need. It's a pretty chill philosophy when it comes to religion.

[–] navigatron 3 points 8 months ago

Thank you, that’s an excellent read! This reminds me of the “expected value of perfect information” - sometimes it is worthwhile to answer a question, and sometimes it isn’t. Every once in a while I find myself in an engineering call discussing a minor problem, and I run the numbers to see if the change we are discussing is even worth talking about. One time the combined salaries of the people on the call had already outpaced the cost savings of the change over the next 10 years. We quickly stopped that discussion lol

[–] caveman@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Recently the only news about politics I don't find disgusting is done by political scientists. You you recommend a book on the topic for beginners?

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A book about current events or a book about the study of politics? OP indicated they were political theory focused, so a lot of the theory was written by old dead guys; not exactly news about current events.

[–] caveman@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

About the study of politics, like Plato, etc, but all in one for beginners

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Plato has basically nothing to do with modern politics.

You're going to laugh, but I'm absolutely serious here: if your objective is to understand modern politics, I would start with The Prince and the Communist Manifesto.

Both of these are short, written by extremely influential figures, written for non-academic audiences, and have some amount of relevancy to current political operations. They absolutely do not explain modern politics, but they are important foundational texts. Spend 20 hours on the manifesto; 2 hours to read and 18 hours of commentary and related topics. Avoid going deeper into the communist rabbit holes. stop there. Spend 30 hours on the prince; look for college level lectures. You can spend more than 30 if you like, but don't go for the self help guru dipshits, obviously.

Just keep in mind the target audences and the potential bias the two authors bring to the table.

After those two, I want you to read On Liberty and read up on John Locke's social contract theory. Those four works will get you a lot of milage.

[–] caveman@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

I've read a good part of Communist manifesto and found it interesting. The fascist Manifesto is very similar to it. I found very weird that communists are against fascists, given that their manifestos are so similar.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Depends on what you're wanting to focus on, but a great start would be Rules for Rulers by Arnold Meltsner, Freakonomics by Levitt & Dubner, CIA: legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner, confessions of an Economic Hit Man by John Perkins are some that I started early.

CGP Grey did a great job synthesizing Rules for Rulers on YouTube as well.

Also a big think video Why Sociopaths Rise to Power

Also Veritasium has a great video on game theory

Hope that helps!

[–] caveman@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Economic hit man I read already and it's good. Another nice one that I've read was "Silk roads" from Peter Frankopan

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago

Lmao.

Try talking soil science with gardeners and permaculture geeks.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

I like Sync because you can block instances or keywords.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That's how I browse (all & scaled or all & new) and I'm a CS nerd. To make the experience less annoying I've blocked a bunch of communities mainly because they're not interesting to me (there's a lot of anime and/or porn communities, fucking hell), but it's generally a nice experience – I can run into all kinds of things that I hadn't heard of before. I haven't even gotten traumatized yet! Shame the only way to filter the feed is to block communities, but eh

[–] Sprokes@jlai.lu 4 points 8 months ago

What am I doing wrong? I never get any anime content nor porn.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 22 points 8 months ago

I'm glad you're here. Now there are at least two of us!

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not a programmer either, nurse in a psychiatric hospital. But I am interested in FOSS and web 3.0.

Working in a psychiatric hospital and spending your free time in another

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[–] TaintPuncher@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’ll have you know that I wrote a semi-functional webpage in HTML when I was in college 😎

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

My Angelfire page is still up and running.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 8 months ago

Bring on the political science and jazz posts! Would love to see them around.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Python? Where? All I see is people praising Rust here. Also, Ubuntu? That's the most hated Linux distro on Lemmy.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So this supports my point completely. No fuckin clue what you're saying.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 8 months ago

Don't worry, you'll learn soon enough

[–] swab148@startrek.website 13 points 8 months ago

Hey, I studied jazz too! Now I'm working on becoming a sysadmin lol

[–] manucode@feddit.de 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Uns Deutsche gibt's auch noch.

[–] norgur@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dieser Kommentarebereich....

[–] neo@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

I'm not a programmer either, but I am a Linux and open source user so I can at least wade through the waters, lol

[–] Aggravationstation@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

I sir am a Linux engineer and resent your insinuation that I'm a programmer.

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 months ago

I studied both political science and programming.

I can't think of a good joke, but I wanted to share.

[–] Aarkon@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For representational reasons, I miss the logo of the Rust programming language, but I have the hint of an idea why the creator of the meme didn’t put it in there.

[–] survivalmachine 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

wait, did they change the Rust logo? What happened?

[–] Aarkon@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

I’m referring to this controversy, just in case that wasn’t obvious: https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/17/rust_foundation_apologizes_trademark_policy/

[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

You will assimilate

[–] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

you are one of us now...

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

political science and jazz

Theodor Adorno, is that you?

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Hell yea I love a good wiki deep dive

I am actually writing an analysis of the music industry and counter culture responses with regards to AI and the future of music! I'm calling it musical humanism. 🎷 🎺 🎸

[–] Hammerheart@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago

I would LOVE to read that

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[–] adamantris@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm no programmer either, but switched to the penguin out of necessity, since my PC completely lost the ability to run Windows for no reason. But I vibe with KDE Plasma now, so it's not half bad.

(Someone tell me where I find my mounted devices as a folder pls, thanks)

[–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Not sure what folders they are usually in by default, but I set my mounted drives to be inside of the /mnt folder because I didn't like wherever they were originally mounted to.

[–] Original 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I just wish that other users were into sports too. At least a couple!

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 months ago

OpenAI? Is more of a normie thing

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

Time to install Ubuntu 😶

[–] figjam@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago

image

(doesn't exactly fit, but still funny enough to share, I hope!:-P)

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