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What bad news? Why? Hasn't UA been winning all along, for 1.5 years?

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[–] Chup@feddit.de 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There is no context and nothing specific, as the headline makes it seem. He is just putting out phrases in an interview:

"Wars develop in phases," Stoltenberg said [...]

"We have to support Ukraine in both good and bad times," he said.

"We should also be prepared for bad news,” Stoltenberg added [...]

[...] Stoltenberg said. “The more we support the Ukraine, the faster the war will end."

[–] Hirom 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The article is light in new information. He's basically saying let's continue to support Ukraine.

[–] cwagner 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There is no context and nothing specific, as the headline makes it seem.

Politico.eu got bought by Axel Springer, Germany’s Fox News, 2 years ago.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for much valued context.

Adding politico.eu 0.0.0.0 to my hosts file.

[–] kashara@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Noooooooooo. I'm beginning you, remove this line. Pleeeeeeeaaaaasssse. Noooooooooo. Otherwise I'll die.

[–] Zworf 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ugh they are also the ones dumping this stupid celeb news on Samsung phones (called upday). First thing I remove from my phone, unfortunately Samsung still dumps it on every phone (be careful it often runs in the background without noticing, and it's built into the home screen).

[–] kashara@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So it's Politico came up with this fake news? Alright:

The fact is that if even European official admits it, then it must've been bad for UA for a good half a year if not a year already.

[–] sonori 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s more of a stalemate, while technically every day Ukraine exists is a victory, ideally they’d be in a position to retake thier own land. Meanwhile the only long term possibility the Kremlin has been pursuing is expending vast quantities of men and material in hopes that Nato gets bored before they have to conscript from the cities and get overthrown.

A well noted part of this campaign has been in attempts to foster misinformation and shake confidence in the ability of Ukraine to hold the line and eventually take back its land and people from the invading imperial power.

If you are interested and have a spare hour, Perun’s recent piece on the political war is excellent as always.

https://youtu.be/pIKiFAKMoi0?si=jyDupy7xxT-qjYxg

[–] kashara@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s more of a stalemate,

if you listen to the European and US propaganda, then it is.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 10 points 11 months ago

3 day special military operation.

[–] Zworf 10 points 11 months ago

If we keep giving them some scraps and some patched up cold war writeoffs then yeah.. What are they going to do. Both sides have lost momentum.

The whole thing feels like a stalemate now.

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, because the last two years have been so full of fantastically good news.

[–] kashara@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

Even the loss of Bahmut, which fell in March, has never been admitted by UA.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

🤖 I'm a bot that provides automatic summaries for articles:

Click here to see the summaryNATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg warned that the Western military alliance should be ready for bad news from the Ukrainian front as Kyiv continues to defend against Russia's all-out invasion.

"Wars develop in phases," Stoltenberg said in an interview Saturday with German broadcaster ARD.

His comments come as Western allies debate over ammunition and financial aid for Ukraine, and as Moscow boosts its troop levels.

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on Friday to increase the number of soldiers by some 170,000 to a total of 1.3 million.

Stoltenberg called on NATO’s members to ramp up the production of ammunition, bemoaning the fragmented state of Europe’s defense industry.

A victory for Putin would not only be a tragedy for Ukraine but it would also present a danger for the rest of the allies, Stoltenberg said.


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