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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Design of next socio-economic system (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 weeks ago by testman@lemmy.ml to c/collapse@lemm.ee

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Are there any projects that are working on the design of some potential socio-economic / political systems, which could be used after collapse of the current system?

It seems like it would be good idea to design potential system beforehand, instead of quickly slapping one together under pressure of societal chaos.
And designing one from the start would allow for introduction of various features, which would be hard to implement by applying modifications to current system.
Features like some built-in mitigation of various kinds of corruption. Some increased flexibility for quick response to the exploitation of loopholes. Stuff like that.

Post any relevant links or resources.

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[–] maketotaldestr0i@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i think about these things quite a bit.

Im more interested in building ones that can exist within our current system that allow people to flourish while simultaneously removing power from the incumbent system, in a way that will produce better outcomes for the populations within during the decline/collapse.

Its worth it to start at a human and tribal scale then scale up from there and iterate.

the top down models are failures best to let them fail and hasten that process while carving out some refugia that provide standdard of living for participants in them while establishing "best practices" that could be rapidly franchised out as more people want to exit the system as much as possible.

one of the problems people dont want to talk about is people abdicating personal responsibility and societal coordination to sociopaths out of sheer laziness and apathy. Nothing good works unless people want it. and people seem to be willling to trade any amount of freedom or justice or even money away to avoid the tiniest bit of inconvenience in the moment.

Best thing to do is hunt down other people that want to build alternatives now and start working with those people , fuck everyone else.

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think we may have an upcoming time of enclavization, where different people build their communities upon the ideals they hold - little communities that say "fuck it, we'll do it our way", and that eventually will grow or shrink, depending on what principles they operate by.