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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Are you suggesting that hundreds of thousands people that are not yet have found their waybin the country are not putting a massive strain on the social infrastructure?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hundreds of thousands compared to what? That's a rounding error compared to 450 million Europeans for example.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If we're talking Europe as a whole, there are quite a few more refugees coming here. Around 6 million every year, according to the European Commission.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That is the total number of refugees hosted in the EU, not the yearly figure.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Source? Because that is not what the source you linked before says. And also highly unlikely because the global number of refugees according to the same source was 36.4 million at mid-2023.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

According to the link above, 6.98 million people immigrated to the EU in 2022. In the same year, around 1 million new asylum claims were filed.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago

You are confusing immigrants with refugees. Most of the regular immigration is due to people taking up jobs and is coming from nearby non-EU countries like the UK.

Yes, I was conflating the numbers of immigrants with the number of refugees.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

According to the source, yes, there are currently 36 million refugees globally. Around 10% of those are in the EU. That's 3.6 million.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And that's still the total and not the yearly increase, although admittedly the total did increase recently quite a bit due to the war in Ukraine. And it is still a tiny number compared to the total population in the EU.

[–] xilliah 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Which we're lucky to have cuz we don't have enough kids.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] xilliah 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except that the "facts" are not supported by the source they linked.

[–] xilliah 1 points 3 months ago
[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We don't have enough kids because many families that would like to have kids can't afford them.

[–] xilliah 1 points 3 months ago

Yap our civ is like a trap

Truth is we need people so we are lucky to get them

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