Every article on pronatalism in the past few years has been these two Thiel-sponsored white nationalist dweebs and nobody else. Why the fuck does the Guardian fall for this shit too.

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

@dgerard

I contacted the reporter via her website, to ask what motivated the story when the Guardian just wrote about them last year, and if the couple's PR rep (who I assume exists) had instigated it.

I don't really expect to hear back but it sure would be interesting to know.

[–] mpk@awful.systems 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's worth noting in the Grauniad's defence that the piece which mentioned them (among others) last year wasn't a commissioned interview article, it was a column by Arwa Mahdawi. Columnists usually have a regular gig to write opinion pieces on some topic relevant to their interests and then submit them for publication -- in other words, they don't have an editor telling them to go and cover something, they write about what they feel like writing about even if it turns out to be at odds with the paper's editorial policy (e.g. Simon Jenkins, who is a Guardian columnist despite regularly expressing some highly un-Guardian-reader views). As Mahdawi is a columnist who regularly focuses on feminist issues and the United States this would be entirely within her field of interest.

Still doesn't mean these people deserve yet more coverage, though. I hope their kids get out of this toxic family having suffered as little harm as possible from a mother who apparently thinks that the only solution to "cheap, good-quality snowsuits bought from Russia" not fitting when you're pregnant is dressing like a tradwife and a father who really doesn't seem to like them and who does an abuse in front of a journalist which he thinks he can just explain away with pseudoscientific bullshit as "hey, that looked like abuse but it wasn't, it was SCIENCE".

[–] maol@awful.systems 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I really really don't get how wearing a corset* while you're pregnant is somehow the most rational option

*Don't come @ me corset fans, I'm sure they are very comfortable, but while you're pregnant? Eight months pregnant?

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago

i pinged her on twitter too

[–] maol@awful.systems 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's because there is no "movement" and the whole thing is a stunt to promote the ideas of the least thoughtful of all the unthoughtful people who nonetheless consider themselves intellectuals.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My Papaw has ten brothers and sisters and dropped out of the sixth grade to become an entrepreneur, but I don't see the Guardian beating a path to his door.

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 1 points 5 months ago

Honestly any day the Guardian isn't publishing transphobia wearing a feminism mask is a good day for them.