The steam deck is how you prevent piracy. If you look at the huge influx of streaming services, you'll see an example of how you encourage piracy. I recently dropped three of my services in favor of one pirate site that has almost everything. They even offer a subscription tier and I've considered it. I'm willing to pay for good content. What I'm not willing to do is pay dozens of middlemen across multiple companies to rip off the people who actually make my favorite shows and then memory hole the shows a few months after they premiere.
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memory hole
sick turn of phrase, i'm stealing that
Please read 1984. That's where this term comes from. You're living through a combination of it and Brave New World.
I think steam in general is a proof that its a service issue
Don't even need Steam deck. The Steam store has put an end to my pirate life over a decade ago.
On multiple occasions, I have found myself rather wait for sale and bought a game on Steam, than receive it for free on Epic store.
I put every single games that I have ever pirated in Steam's wishlist (if it's available). Then slowly buying them one by one when they goes on sale. I'm not rich by any means and it's the least I can do.
It mostly stopped piracy for me, but occasionally I'll want to try a game but not want to support the company, or try a game I know I'll hate just to see what they did.
I also pirated Starfield, which I technically had access to through GamePass, but it couldn't be modded. (I also ended up hating it too.) I'll probably be canceling GamePass though since I've switched to 100% Linux since then, and Windows has made it impossible to use with Linux.
I've been doing this exact thing!! and it's refreshing to see this attitude on Lemmy, which generally seems to really really hate giving the creators of the content they consume any money. People here act like they're entitled to free content and piracy is some moral obligation. Piracy is and should be just a little bit shameful. it's not like it's evil or whatever but you're not supposed to be proud of doing it. I pay for the content i spend the most time with whenever I'm financially comfortable enough to do it.
The deck has made me more likely to buy a game on steam because of how easy it is.
Seamlessly syncing game saves between my Deck and my primary gaming PC is so nice. Before I travel I just make sure to wake up the deck long enough to get updates and sync saves.
For non steam games I use syncthing but that always requires just a little bit of work.
I actually bought some games on Steam I already owned on other launchers because while I could set them up via Lutris or the like just hitting "Play" is so much easier it's unreal. Valve is doing so much to make Linux game as comfortable as possible I don't even remotely consider buying from anyone else because there it's a pain in the ass just to get the game running once, never mind keeping it running through updates
Not to mention keeping game saves in sync. I’m experimenting with syncthing for my pirated games, but I have to admit that just getting the Steam version sounds much more sensible now that I’ve my Steam deck.
Speaking of services, I wonder how much piracy would go down if Netflix and Disney Plus and such would let you rent a film or episode at £0.50-£2 at a time for 24 hours, like how Google Play used to let you. That way if you don't own one of the subscriptions, you can still watch by paying pocket change. Or watch unlimited by paying the monthly fee.
It is as simple as providing a service that has all content I want to watch. Look at things like Spotify or Apple Music. They don't have everything, but it's enough and has effectively stopped my pirating music.
Same with Netflix. It stopped me pirating because of the convenience, but since everything got separated in its own service again, I started up my own plex server. I'm not jumping through a million hoops to watch a stupid show or film...
Vudu, Amazon, and iTunes have renting capabilities.
Isn't it typically close to the same price as buying it?
Yes
Well, I stopped pirating games a long ago because of steam, because of how good it was/is as a service and low prices. I don't think any game publisher should cry about steam prices, because when the AAA game is just released and for a full price, millions of FOMOs run to buy it. And I can wait and see if it's worth it.
they did it without relying on DRM
Steam itself has some kind of DRM. You need to login to Steam to access the games you bought (sure there's offline mode but then you can't download your games, update or buy more, so it's only temporary convenience). If Steam dies one day, so will your Steam games library.
However, the service is great, so it's not annoying.
That is absolutely not correct.
Steam policy is if valve shuts it down, they'll give you enough time to download all the games and run them without drm.
Yeah, I too can make wildly lofty promises that probably won't need to ever be verified.
You mean the last part is not correct. I did forget that I heard that point before. However, it is still a DRM and you are relying on a promise made by a for-profit company that it will be removed if necessary. I don't think history showed this kind of trust is deserved. Steam is doing good right now and has a strong founder and leader. What happens when he's gone in 20 years, and the company has financial troubles?
That's a good policy. As long as the right people are still around to enforce it, it's a little reassuring.
Yeah I mean that's a fundamental problem.
We can a) trust people/companies as long as they don't give us a reason to not trust them.
Or b) we can never trust anyone but then this discussion is pointless anyway.
If there was no DRM we wouldn't need to trust anyone to undo it.
Or if that emergency release of the DRM was a contractual guarantee we had at point of purchase, we'd also need less trust.
Steam DRM is trivial to circumvent, it's basically cheap locks screwed onto the game with security torx, not even riveted: If you have a toolbelt you're already in and every skiddie with half a brain cell can do it as Valve doesn't bother defeating the scripts that are floating around.
What it does prevent is random tech-illiterate people copying game files to their friend's box.
If Steam dies one day then my library would be largely lost, yes, but not due to DRM but because most of my library isn't actually on my disk.
I just hope that steam stays good. it's great now, but I fear for the future with everything behind steam DRM
I was playing MegaMan Battle Neckwork and Tony Hawks pro Skater using emu deck for almost a year.
When both dropped on Steam I bought both. Unfortunately MegaMan Battle Network requires Internet to run so I reverted back to the emulators.
Tony Hawk is a wonderful port however.
Mega Man Battle Network does not require internet to run, it only requires internet for the multiplayer. Which is dead anyway
I pirated Need for Speed Most Wanted (2005) and played it from start to finish on my Steam Deck because it was impossible to buy. I would've paid $20 for that old ass game if it was available for sale, but it was literally impossible.
The problem is that these giant publishers are led by MBAs, and as someone who went to business school, I know first hand how stupid those people are.
As someone who dropped put of business school to fix cars for a living, I feel this.
Need for Speed Most Wanted (2005)
Man, I loved that game. It was the last NFS I played, everything after that sucked donkey balls and required an Origin installation.
Any tips on how you got it to run? I have the ElAmigos release and I think I tried it once but didn't have any success on the Deck.
In my personal life, I run Linux on all my devices and I would never invest in non-opensource technology for my career. (Work forces me to run macOS, but that's another story).
For years now, I happily and only buy games on Steam, even if I have the choice between Steam and NoDRM. Simply because Steam just works(TM) and is convenient. (Of course one never buys games on steam with a forced additional starter from Ubisoft etc.).
Steam is really great from a technically POV, from a giving back to the community point and from a customer friendliness point (never had a problem with a return).
I even bought a SteamDeck although I am no big fan of handhelds, and for what it is, it is great.
I'll happily waste more money on my Steam backlog of shame. ;-)
I buy most of my games on steam simply because it makes running them on Linux so damn easy, and I remember the bad old days when it was hell!
By now Steam's most loyal userbase is probably the Linux Gaming community because they make it so easy to just play the games, not to mention the QoL improvements they contribute to upstream projects
Games are one of the very few things that I always pay for. Steam is mostly responsible for that. Also, music. But nowadays I do store some of my own music because I can have lossless that way.
Here's my piracy shtick.
I beat half of Blasphemous on a pirated copy then I bought it, moved the save file and kept playing.
Criteria: I like the game. I'll probably play it again in ten years and I want to support the devs.
What would've happened if I never pirated it? I'd be saying the same thing about someone else's game.
I only run legit games on my handheld Linux computer. You're right, a user like me could most certainly install games some other way but there's no point putting in all this effort since I can just joink it from my years old steam account and be very happy in the process.