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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

And our governments are beholden to the rich because they can offer the best bribes.

Until the rich feels threatened by the climate catastrophe, nothing will happen or change.

Although we are seeing the first economic fallout from climate change, so there's a slim chance. The rich are going to see their precious economic growth slow and eventually stall. I don't know how they'll react to that.

Maybe they'll all flee to New Zealand. Or some other remote location. I doubt SpaceX is going to offer any way out for anyone but the musky chodelet.

I guess the rich's reaction depends on whether they think their hideaway will afford them the same privilege as they currently have. Maybe they'll try to bootstrap an Elysium like refuge on the moon if it's predicted that even New Zealand won't be safe from climate induced collapse.

[–] jerebear39@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate to be pessimistic but I feel more and more that we aren't going to deal with climate in a meaningful way. I feel the governments of the world are taking a approach of benign neglect.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

When i was a kid, i read in comic books how bad fckw is for the ozone layer. We learned it in school and people stopped producing and using it and the ozone layer is getting better and better. Same with leaded fuel. It at least it felt like humanity pulled on the same string.
Now you see people who are actively into climate change, because they hate the thought of being progressive or "green", because that's for gays, and their favourite companies might lose money, or even worse, not eating meat once a month or maybe even walk/ride instead of use their car every now and then.
I'm generally rather negative, but it feels really hopeless.
Every now and then i gear that recycling is a scam, being vefan is pointless and they now eat twice as much meat than before etc. I'm not trying to sace the planet, i don't have children, i don't really care, i just do what i think is right.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately it will end up being far from benign if we keep pace

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

There should be studies being done to find out which form of eco-sabotage has the biggest impact on CO2 reduction. Something along the lines of this website.

Offset.labr.io

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

But what does Dr. Filthy Richenstein think? From his Enron lab?