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This has been a strange year.

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[โ€“] Flicsmo@rammy.site 101 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This certainly has been a strange year. The reckoning for these big unprofitable sites was inevitable in retrospect, but it's wild how much is happening all at once.

[โ€“] Cube6392 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it has a lot to do with Silicon Valley Bank failing. These companies were running on loans with the promise of "the profits will come, some day." Whether they meant to or not, many of our most relied upon services were being run as venture capital scams. Whether these companies turned profits or not didn't matter so much as long as the executives were getting paid salaries, and could show the investors graphs that showed something was happening to grow the company, it didn't matter if the service was bleeding investor money into the cloud giants like Amazon, Microsoft, and Google.

And if we want to trace the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank back further, look no farther than Sam Bankman-Fried, Cara Ellison, and FTX. That one was very expressly a venture capital scam and a ponzi scheme rolled into one. I'm not going to say all cryptocoins are scamcoins, but I will happily say that enough of then are that the collapse of FTX has done permanent harm to the kinds of confidence people will be willing to put into digital fiat currencies. But what I more want to point out is that Sam Bankman-Fried was an intensified version of the kinds of people who have been showing growth charts and promising "profits, someday" while drawing massive salaries and bleeding investor money. He was playing video games on meetings and it was building his reputation, not harming it

The investors who knew SBF was playing games in meetings were the investors who backed Reddit and Gfycat. Now that their SVB money and their FTX money is never coming back, they need to withdraw money from other investments, while at the same time Reddit and Gfycat are no longer receiving their stream of money to pay their cloud bills. The result? Corporate web 2.0 is dead as of July 1st, 2023. Sure. There are still corporate web 2.0 services shambling across this earth, including Twitter and Reddit whose actions yesterday marked the end of corporate web 2.0, but they're zombies. Their hearts have stopped beating. They're dead ans they don't even know it.

Whether you call it small web, web0, or my personal choice, Web 2.0.1, we are currently experiencing a rise of user owned web services that are picking up the slack left by corporate web 2.0 while in many ways rejecting web 3.0 as not being ready, or outright being a scam. We have a critical opportunity right now. We have the chance to realize that Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Alexis Ohanian, Stephen Huffman, or Elon Musk don't have exclusive rights to enable us or empower us to interact online. They were holding a magic feather. We can use the tools of the fediverse to replace them. Its a little more work, yes, but so is everything when you take your own ownership of things. Making your own meals is more work than going to McDonalds, but its cheaper and healthier. Growing your own tomatoes is more work than going to the store, but you get the enjoyment of doing it and lesson your environmental impact. Owning your own home is more work than renting, but you get to keep the equity you build.

This federated internet experiment is worth the work. While we're still experiencing some reliance in the cloud providers, they're at least providing us with a service we might not have been able to figure out on our own. Twitter, Facebook, and reddit, though? Their value was a shared hallucination. They were useful to us because we collectively convinced ourselves they were useful. Now we just need to convince ourselves that the bug fix to web 2.0, web 2.0.1, removing the corporations, is worthwhile.

If you're reading this, it means you've taken a big first step. Now take the second: tell a friend

Great read, and right on the nose. Louis Rossman has a good video discussing this issue, especially Reddit's role in all of it. Forgot the title, but its pretty recent.

The "golden days" of internet social media platforms are gone. It was fun while it lasted, but these companies were BLEEDING venture capitalist money, and at some point they have to show a profit. That time is now, and it's ugly.

[โ€“] dan@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Theyโ€™re all jumping to get their bad news out while thereโ€™s a lot of other drama going on, in the hopes itโ€™ll go less noticed.

[โ€“] fgjbvdrgbbb@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its because credits got expensive. You cant get money that easily anymore.

Great simplification tbh.

[โ€“] Quark95@lemmy.fmhy.ml 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Man, this really isnโ€™t a good year for the internet

[โ€“] dan@lemm.ee 108 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Or it could be a really fucking great year. It could mark the end of commercialised social media and the beginnings of truly widespread adoption of free and open alternatives.

[โ€“] Flicsmo@rammy.site 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While this year has been painful for the data preservationist part of me, I also couldn't be more excited for the rise of the small web and open platforms.

[โ€“] dan@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah all that information disappearing is a huge disappointment.

But realistically while Reddit Inc own that data it was always going to happen eventually. If it wasn't the demand from LLMs pushing them to lock it away so they can monetise it, it'd have been a move like Twitter blocking non logged in users, or just them purging old data to save money or something.

[โ€“] Quark95@lemmy.fmhy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I appreciate your optimistic view on the situation. I really hope Lemmy will one day reach the same level of popularity as Reddit.

[โ€“] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

I hope it will remain a bit more niche, but yeah.

You gave a hopeless soul some hope today. Thank you.

[โ€“] FistfulOfStars@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just wait until the "targeted ad" bubble pops because people realize it's all a fraudulently inflated market with little to no true value.

There will be wailing, and gnashing of teeth.

[โ€“] Clairvoidance@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Entirely speculation, but I think this might be why some of the dominoes are already falling?
Like maybe all the ads pulled out of Twitter and saw that it didn't impact the ad companies very much?
If so, it could be the true end to Web 2.0

[โ€“] iopq@vlemmy.net 5 points 1 year ago

Or maybe the best year?

[โ€“] jray4559@lemmy.fmhy.ml 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Man this year has just been a total collapse of everything:

character,ai filtrations

GPT slowly being neutered thanks to societal concerns

Twitter being fucked by Mr. Elon "I know everything" Musk

Imgur cleaning house for no reason

Reddit dropping a nuke on 3rd Party apps

Netflix killing password sharing

Youtube feeling in to kill adblockers

-and now gfycat is about to collapse entirely.

What the actual fuck?

[โ€“] Vlhacs@reddthat.com 20 points 1 year ago

Yet another step toward end game capitalism where nothing's free/affordable anymore and only way to consume basic entertainment is either through a paid service or absolutely ridiculous ads everywhere. Where CEOs are squeezed by shareholders for every last extra % in their returns and in turn makes their product as anti consumer as possible except for the top 1% that can afford it.

[โ€“] sweBers@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Tech CEOs: Turns out the cloud costs money. Who knew? What next, credits are going to send me bills, lol? I already spent that money.

[โ€“] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bonds are a really good deal right now, which makes more people want to loan the government money than each other. This leads to less people overleveraging, which most companies depend on for growth.

All of the businesses you mentioned were overleveraged, so it's understandable that they'd crack under the pressure

(Note: The bonds market is referring to the US, but the effects are global)

I've never heard of gyfcat. Or so I thought. I opened the website and immediately went "oh! I know this site! I love this site! Oh wait... Aw man...." What a rollercoaster

[โ€“] vqsv@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The internet is dying. Federated is the last stand.

[โ€“] Cycro@vlemmy.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Web 2.0* is dying, and good riddance imo. I'm ready for the return of grassroots social media and decentralized communities.

[โ€“] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The way things have been going I keep expecting to hear BBS's are coming back.

[โ€“] n3m4c@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So Reddit now becomes even more useless. Collection of DNS not resolving

[โ€“] meat_popsicle@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Good point, and this raises an interesting topic: is there much value to old data from a link aggregator like Reddit when so many services are no longer available and the old links go nowhere?

Services like Facebook or Twitter are seemingly not as exposed to that type of issue since theyโ€™re less reliant on external content.

[โ€“] Perfide@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Nope, not really. I can't tell you how many times I've found a really old reddit thread with links I wanna check out only for them to be dead. With the services reddit rely on for content going down, this is only going to accelerate.

[โ€“] zedtronic@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey wait Iโ€™ve seen this one before!

โ€œ The dotcom bubble burst when capital began to dry up. In the years preceding the bubble, record-low interest rates, the adoption of the Internet, and interest in technology companies allowed capital to flow freely, especially to startup companies that had no track record of success.โ€

[โ€“] LemUrun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

What the fuck is happening with everything?

[โ€“] Nusm 10 points 1 year ago

Man, thatโ€™s a shame.

[โ€“] mo_lave@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] jim@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] bioemerl@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am so happy that I learned to build a habit of saving everything I wanted to keep from the internet over the last couple years. I can't imagine what it would be like if I hadn't saved my history and all these websites started going pop even though they were big names in their day.

I hated this website though, it replaced all of the good gift images that support for software viewing on my phone for tiny short videos which were an absolute pain in the ass to view in line with my other content.

[โ€“] n3m4c@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Would be great if every service didnโ€™t make it as difficult as possible to download content

[โ€“] 21Cabbage@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yet another one didn't make it. Well damn, fuck this year for sure.

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