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I really do like KBin and Lemmy and the fediverse on the whole, but development is still young and the userbase still growing. KBin is still basically early access, and Lemmy is buggy. I spent alot of time in reddit and I'm feeling the pain of trying to ween myself from it. Just wanted to here community perspectives and see how other's are taking it.

For me, I feel a bit of a sore hollow spot for what reddit used to be and watching it implode is not fun for me.

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[–] shadowbert@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, yes. It's a pain.

But the good news is that, due to their sudden increase in popularity, they're likely to mature much more quickly than they would have otherwise.

[–] HeinousTugboat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I've been on reddit for more than 15 years at this point. I definitely feel like there's a big gap now. I think Kbin/Lemmy will be able to fill it eventually, though.

[–] szczur@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I was seriously addicted to Reddit at some point, but in the meantime I got a perma-ban there. So I gave up and here we are.

[–] cruspies@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've just realised that I haven't viewed a single tiktok video since leaving reddit. So I guess I haven't missed them. I never posted anything on reddit, I mostly lurked - as a passive consumer of other people's content. That's the biggest difference I guess. Here I have several different logins on various servers, and I've posted a few times in niche communities. It feels like a mini adventure!

[–] runningromeo@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Oh my god, I totally didn't realise that until you spelt it out: the amount of rehosted/reposted tiktok content was off the charts in the larger subs towards the end.

No wonder everything feels so much more intimate here!

[–] cruspies@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I've just realised that I haven't viewed a single tiktok video since leaving reddit. So I guess I haven't missed them. I never posted anything on reddit, I mostly lurked - as a passive consumer of other people's content. That's the biggest difference I guess. Here I have several different logins on various servers, and I've posted a few times in niche communities. It feels like a mini adventure!

[–] Scope@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

My "life being disrupted" is a tad dramatic, but it's certainly changed my downtime scrolling habits. And there are some niche interests that I can't participate in the discussion of anymore since deleting my Reddit account, because there's not the user base here to support the communities. Mostly, I can't wait until KBin isn't just a place where the most active conversations are about Reddit. I think RedditMigration is the most populated overall magazine, and I really hope that's not a lasting situation.

[–] Eigengrau@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Trying figure out solving tech issues , wasn't ready to stop wit (.*) site:reddit.com . Just wasnt ..

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I actually kind of feel the opposite way. While Kbin is young, and will certainly be more optimised with time, it works more than well enough to satisfy my want to interact with the world the same way I would through Reddit - though interactions feel more personal. Just in this thread I recognise a couple of names of those I've chatted with before.

Additionally, moving to Kbin finally gave me a chance to do some spring-cleaning on my browsing habits. Where I used only stick to my subscribed feed on Reddit, I find myself much more on All on Kbin, exposing myself to more (though I do stay away from NSFW, unlike what I did on Reddit).

[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're not alone. People have a natural propensity to form groups and create connections with other people. Historically those connections have evolved from small and localized tribes to communities, and eventually to cities, city states, and regional/national cultures. It's in our DNA to want to be with other people, even if we joke about how we sometimes do not. We are a social species, and that quality has played a critical role in how our species developed.

We have all done this before, and we'll all do it again and again. Our interests change over time. We move to new communities. Where (and with whom) we spend time changes as we live out our lives. The way we socialize, and the people we socialize with, will change many times. The communities with which you belong never really stay the same. Change is genuinely one of the only true constants. Rather than facing it as an impediment or a loss, we can view it as an opportunity.

Change is difficult, but it can be a very good thing. Change is really the only way we grow. If we retain what's familiar and comfortable then we will never experience anything new. You're better than that. We're all better than that. This is an opportunity that is so rarely afforded to a community like ours to do something different. Don't lament on what was lost, but seize this as an opportunity. Let's make this new community everything you'd hoped the last one could be but wasn't.

This isn't a time to think about what has been lost, but the greatest of opportunities in front of us. Seize it. Seriously. The sooner we turn our other cheek on where we were and focus on where we are and where we can be, the faster this community will begin to truly emerge and transform from being quite simply a refuge for former Redditors, to whatever it is that we want to make of it. It's all about perspective. This is an opportunity for us all. Let's make something of it. Let's do it together.

[–] knoland@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

No. Reddit had turned into doomscrolling for me instead of a place I enjoyed spending time. I would find myself feeling worse after having browsed reddit, not better.

Switching to KBin has totally changed that, it's more like a forum I go to see stuff and chat with people instead of a hellscape of depressing news and vitriol. I do not miss reddit in the slightest and I can live without the one or two communities there I actually participated in.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have a small business and about 20-30% of my traffic/sales came from Reddit. That's completely disappeared. I've seen a huge impact on my business already

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't relate but damn that sucks I'm sorry you're dealing with this.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Reddit has been pulling unsponsored ad content for the past year. I've been struggling with sales since I don't pay for advertising - all my business comes from word of mouth referrals. Same thing happened in 2018 when Youtube swept through and erased a bunch of content.

Fortunately I run a tight ship with minimal overhead so as long as I get some business weekly I can keep the 'doors' open. But damn it's been tough the past 14 months both with the recession and the changes to Reddit. But that's fine - the slow time gives me a chance to get back to what I enjoy - innovating cool new widgets for the market.

If you want to help us small businesses (all of us are struggling right now), just remember to leave an honest review or mention the business/brand online. A simple word of mouth referral is worth infinitely more than a paid advertisement.

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[–] raktheundead@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, I was already on the way out of Reddit, so this just gave me an excuse to delete my account entirely.

[–] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a hole in my heart, absolutely. I moved over to kbin on June 12, and I hoped that my grief would have subsided over the following 2 weeks, but I feel just as displaced.

I echo what others have said that at least here in the Fediverse, it feels safe enough to comment without getting trolled or dogpiled, so I have been much more engaged here than the last 6 years of my time on reddit, combined. But there are barely enough users here to even have a repartee. 😓

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[–] oxjox@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First, I’m still new here so having to scroll past all the other comments to post a comment is lame.

Most relevant and importantly though, if you feel like your life is “disrupted” by the actions of a social media company, you might want to reassess your life.

I mean, are you serious? Think about the nature of this “issue”. Anyone of this mindset (aside from the developers who were not given enough time to deal with changes) strikes me as exceptionally childish.

What people should have a problem with is the vast number of bot accounts posting content to drive engagement. Reddit is trash. It’s full of click bait and rage bait just like very other “social media” entity.

What’s awesome here is the segment of people searching for smaller more supportive communities built around their hobbies and interests.

Hail to those who’ve been maintaining Vanilla Forums, etc and creating communities in the fediverse. You’re doing it because you care and believe in passions shared by your community.

[–] FoodDude@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I kinda like that you have to scroll past comments to comment yourself. You read, than comment. Kind of like a actual conversation/discussion. It's not just you vs the OP.

[–] tal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some people wrote a userscript to move the comment box to the top within hours of me showing up. If whatever browser you're using can handle that, may fix your problem. Look at !kbinStyles@kbin.social and they have a growing archive of userscripts there.

May also go into the standard Web UI or whatever if someone sends in a PR and Earnest likes it and then there are the various clients coming out.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Not at all. I've been more productive at work too.

[–] Borgzilla@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like someone who has just woken up from cryo-sleep or a soldier who's finally come out of the jungle after twenty years.

The 90s were great for the most part. The Internet was free and open, and there were zillions of forums and personal websites. I call this period the Genesis of the Web.

Then, things got bad. Microsoft monopolised the Web with its shitty IE 6 browser, websites were riddled with malware and popup ads, and you needed an antivirus and an anti-adware on your PC to be safe. I call this period the dark age of the Web. Most search engines died out, and Google became the king of search.

A couple years into the new millennium, Firefox and HTML 5 came about. There was hope again. Mozilla was fighting the good fight to keep the Web open, and new Web development techniques were developed (jQuery, CSS3, Dojo toolkit, Ajax became easier, etc). As a Web developer, this period was very exciting. You just couldn't keep up with the new stuff. Firefox's market share kept increasing, and new websites appeared on the scene: myspace, youtube, thefacebook (basically, proto-social media). Google released their Chrome browser, and IE was dying a slow death. This was the golden age of the Internet.

Then, things got bleak. Apple released their iPhone, and Google released Android. By this time, most personal websites were gone, social media was on the rise, Firefox became less and less relevant, and by the end of the 2010s, the Web had become just a shell of itself. The 'Web' was now just a dozen websites owned by powerful corporations. Engagement algorithms were developed to keep people hooked, and Google analytics tracked everything. Privacy was gone for good. This is the period we are currently in. I call it Corpo Web or the Dystopian Web. Some of us did not want to participate in this version of the Web, so we lived in a separate world (what we call the small web).

Finally, someone came up with the idea of Fediverse; platforms that can communicate with each other through open protocols. Corporate social media platforms are falling apart (reddit, twitter, facebook, etc), and Fediverse is exploding. Each Fediverse instance has its own personality, and it reminds me of web rings in a way. There is always something new to discover, be it a new community or a new instance of Lemmy/Mastodon/etc.

What I would love to see though, is a way to Lemmy instances more unique (custom designs, chat system, games, etc). This would encourage people to visit other instances. Also, we should be able to categorise communities and group them together (like a traditional forum).

[–] SpaceMonk@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I lost faith in Reddit after Aaron Swartz died. The biggest lesson I learned in HS was that knowledge was real power and trust fundies will always try to take access to it and that’s what’s going on in the social media sphere these days.

[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I was very active on Reddit for a long time so it's really hard for me to let it go. But let it go I will. They're fully on the path of enshittification and I'm not going down that one with them.

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