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[–] evirac@vlemmy.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we should promote Odyssey instead of YouTube. YouTube can also fuck people over any time over like reddit and it is in a much better position to do so. So if a creator has an Odyssey channel as well, why not provide an Odyssey link instead?

https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/reddit-breaks-the-law-trying-to-quell:6?r=86bBjbwaQEYfPativhC7gFKoZaUNt1ah

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is what I do innately.

I use RSS to track my "subscriptions". When one of those creators finally move over to ANY other platform other than youtube, I replace their youtube feed with that other platform. So all my subscriptions are in one place, but I'm not specifically tied to youtube.

Edit: I also don't need to login to my youtube/google account at all.

[–] evirac@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Man I I just use my rss feed as news reader. (I use read you from f-droid). Rss is such a dope and simple thing and I've just learned about it

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[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you get youtibe channels over rss? That would be super helpful as youtibes recommendations constantly miss the mark for me.

So the link is templated like this...

www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=<ChannelID>

Getting the channelID is the worst part of the process. Let's take Hacksmith Industries as an example though. You visit their page, https://www.youtube.com/@theHacksmith. Head over to the "About" tab. Then find the "Share" arrow. When you click that arrow you'll get "Share Channel" and "Copy Channel ID". Copy "Channel ID" will give you UCjgpFI5dU-D1-kh9H1muoxQ

So the feed for Hacksmith Industries would be

www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCjgpFI5dU-D1-kh9H1muoxQ

[–] Stache_ 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There’s a comment pinned in the comments saying the content was being restored due to subreddits being changed from private to public. Still really shitty they don’t allow you to bulk delete though

[–] MasterBuilder@lemmy.one 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say that as if it makes it okay. By definition, it means those comments were not deleted in the first place. When I want my monetizable data deleted, I want it deleted. Not "hidden". I'm a programmer. Changing a mode on a group does not have to "undelete" content. In fact, in any context involving business, explicit work to ensure the data is gone forever is often legally audited.

If they won't delete my data, and that ends up permitted, then I demand that any time my data is viewed or used, I expect compensation - just like musicians, writers, and media companies demand.

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

You're right that "technical difficulties" are not a good defense when they break the law, and neither is "we didn't do it on purpose." I don't think it would be a case where they'd have to pay for the use of the content, though, it would be a case under privacy law. And that would be a lose-lose situation, since if they won the privacy case, they would open a different, potentially nastier area of liability. I'm not a lawyer, but from what I've read, this is dangerous territory. Their safest move here would be to quietly re-delete everything, and try to convince users that the rollbacks never happened. (Aka "gaslighting.")

[–] MajesticFlame@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago

Still borderline illegal that they don't allow you to delete comments from private subredits...

[–] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit both refused to delete comments and not showing some comments so that people cannot deleye manually? That's super "legal".

[–] restingboredface@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I dont know if that's the only reason they are actually doing it though. I deleted a bunch of comments using shreddit after the protest was over and those comments were back again this morning. I spend 20 minutes going through just replacing a bunch with gibberish as a test to see if that gets restored and will try deleting again in a few days. But I will not try to use a bulk delete service again because I'm not confident those are effective.

[–] speedyturtle@lemmy.fmhy.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Having deleted my account (after editing and deleting every post) only for this to happen, it really sucks, because now I have no way to actually get all of my old posts removed. I wasn't even deleting because of the protests, I was just purging an old account before they changed the API and I couldn't use power delete suite anymore.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish I could just delete my account and be done with it all, but having to hold onto it due to lack of confidence that things will stay deleted and require monitoring on my account from time to time.

[–] demonicbullet@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah was gonna delete on the 30th but ive already seen my comments coming back to life. So I guess we'll hold onto it and check in occasionally

[–] dill@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does that law actually work though? I thought it was only relevant to California residents.

[–] MajesticFlame@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know if CCPA specifically limits itself to residents. Generally laws like this apply to any business conducted in California, unless they limit it in the law itself. This means either the user or the company is in California. Reddit is in California.

Of course there is also the GDPR in EU so I am going to try it now.

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me too, my deleted data has been restored twice now.

[–] RyeBread@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do think genuinely there's quite a bit going on here. They genuinely could be deleting comments, but there's a LOT that goes into it. Different caching servers not updating, reverting to old caches, subreddits being re-enabled and hidden comments being shown again, and lots of things. I do tend to think that Reddit is a shitty company with no respect for their average user, but this is a situation that from a technical standpoint there's a lot in that pipeline that can go wrong and revert back to old data for safety.

[–] maf@szmer.info 8 points 1 year ago

Negligence generally stems from convenience or incompetence. I don't know which is worse.

[–] HunterBidensLapDog@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago

For those manually deleting posts one by one, consider replacing your post with random copy and paste text from copyrighted banned books instead.

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