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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's select and start.
What's it supposed to be, windows and hamburgers?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I won't give it up. Select and Start.

My wife makes fun of me for it whenever we play couch co-op games. "What do you mean press start? My controller doesn't have a Start"

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you married her for her looks, it could be worse.

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[–] WhyIDie@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I'll never give up start, but the select button hasn't been used as an actual selector button in decades

[–] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

This is the way.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did the buttons really need renaming? It's not like options and share or + and - make any more sense

[–] ursakhiin 12 points 1 year ago

For the switch, plus and minus have a symbolic benefit of matching their position on the console itself when the joycons are detached. It's not significant enough to warrant the rename but it at least is more than just a rename.

[–] TheAndrewBrown@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get being nostalgic for Start/Select but how does Options/Share not make more sense? The options button brings up a menu of options for most games and share allows you to share screenshots or video from the game. Whereas start did the same thing options does now which has nothing to do with the word Start and Select was sorta a catch all button for an action you only used occasionally, but was never used for selecting which was usually X but sometimes one of the other shapes.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Options I kinda get but it sounds dumb to me, would've been better as "menu" because it's not exclusively for options, also for pausing and other menus.

Share isn't what that button normally does at all in my mind, sure maybe PlayStation have it bound to that but normally it brings up an alternate menu to start that isn't the pause menu (like in Minecraft and overwatch it brings up player list/scoreboard as an example

A lot of games I believe use it for the map too

[–] TheAndrewBrown@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven’t played Overwatch or Minecraft but every game I’ve played with one of those options used pressing in the touchpad to do that. I’ve never played a game where the share button didn’t share somehow.

I just looked it up and for Minecraft it’s used to take a screenshot or bring up a screenshot menu. I couldn’t find anything for Overwatch though. Are you sure you didn’t remap the button? Or are you using it for PC? It might work different in that case.

I do agree that menu would’ve been a better name, but that doesn’t mean that Options doesn’t make more sense than Start which is what the original comment said.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I was thinking of java edition Minecraft which I now realize I made my own configuration for

Still, not sure where I've got it from but I've definitely got the idea the select button is for menus that aren't the start menu

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Start and Select for life. SNES was my first gamepad.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My nephew was so confused when I kept telling him to press "Select" when we played on a PS5.

You must teach the boy the old ways.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, same. I actually forget the name of the button, too, so when I give someone the controller so they can play and they ask “how do I open the menu?” I’ll say “oh press start. It’s not called start actually but you know press the button that looks like it should be called start.”

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago

The touchpad is just "big select".

I'm not sure who in the name of all fuck decided that controllers should have a dedicated Tweeting button, but I suspect this gen will be the last of that.

[–] Legendsofanus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But....we have two buttons right? The right one was always start and the left one was options ig? I'm an Xbox 360 player

This habit is pre Xbox 360

[–] unfnknblvbl 3 points 1 year ago

Start and Back, respectively. Now it's "Menu" and "View"

...or possibly "hamburger" and "restore window to smaller size". Because that's logical?

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, are we discussing paddles?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like...the Atari kind? Because I'm old enough for those.

Wanna play some Combat?

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everytime I start up Burnout: Paradise Remastered it tells me to hit Options to start the game. No! It's Start to start!

[–] lukini 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will always call it the start button, but to be honest, menu or options are better names for what it does.

[–] MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Same, but never liked options as the name though sounds like that should be the word to replace 'select'. Menu is an adequate replacement for 'start'. Won't call it that but makes sense.

[–] Spot@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago

Same. My older SO corrects me. I won't have any of it.

Curiously enough, the "start" button is now more of a "pause" button. Sometimes also a "skip cutscene" and "open menu" button. Microsoft was into something by actually renaming it to "menu" in the Xbox, since that's what it's used for nowadays. Sony probably chose to call it "options" on the PS4 onwards solely to avoid being sued for plagiarism.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Should've gone the Nintendo route and used symbols. "+" and "-"

What are you talking about? The NES was what solidified the select/start names for me. No matter what any manufacturers call the two bottoms in the center of their controller, they will always be select and start.

[–] IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Let's not get political now.

[–] SternburgExport@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

The zoomers of today are the the boomers of tomorrow.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On Xbox we have Big X and Little X too!

[–] Disgustoid@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My primary gaming is on Xbox and I still can't tell the hamburger and copy button icons apart without looking at them when a game refers to them in a tutorial or menu.

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

In another timeline, Windows 95 introduced the 'Options' button, a revolutionary breakthrough in graphical interface design.