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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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Summary: The Linux Foundation is gradually becoming a shadow of Microsoft, just like the Open Source Initiative, where most of the money comes from Microsoft and the official blog promotes Microsoft, its proprietary software, and Microsoft’s side in a class action lawsuit over GPL violations (with 9 billion dollars in damages at stake).

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[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

While I'm as concerned about historic EEE tactics re-emerging, I'm as equally concerned about FUD. The statement "but could not change the license of Linux, only pressure Linus Torvalds to reject GPLv3 after a campaign of lobbying" is just such a statement. Linus always had personal reservations regarding GPLv3 but that's beside the point. LINUX is licensed as GPLv2 and lacks the "or later" clause of many projects. It cannot be relicensed as GPLv3 without ALL contributors re-licensing their individual contributions.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

historic EEE tactics re-emerging

Those tactics never disappeared, they just hide it better nowadays.

[–] biologicalGarbage@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I am deeply concerned about the acronym-salad

[–] ladyanita22@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. At this point I think it's practically impossible to change the license

[–] heeplr@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no geeks or Linux developers left in the Board (it’s just ‘suits’ and corporate actors)

what could possibly go wrong?

[–] Gleaming0167@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not like the foundation has any technical say in the kernel.

[–] Mkengine@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry for the ignorance, but who has the technical say then?

[–] Cube6392 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linus Torvalds acts as dictator for life. The problem is, and this is what Vim is currently grappling with, what happens when your open source software project with a dictator for life nears end of life? One might assume the Linux foundation becomes the new governance structure. That certainly seems to be what some people think Microsoft is banking on.

Here's my prediction: three kernals will arise competing for who gets to be the continuation of Linux. One by the current Linux foundation, one by a current individual contributor to the kernal, and one by a new organization founded to be a grass roots development effort of Linux. Following this fracturing, another existing project will gain prominence as an alternative kernal. Maybe that's FreeBSD, maybe that's Redox, I don't know. The point is the fracturing of no one knowing what the canonical Linux kernel they should be contributing to will give another kernel an opportunity to gain new users and contributors. The most likely winners are whatever new continuation project I described are, or the alternative kernel that already exists

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thing is, there is a line of succession for Linux Kernel, Linus is more of a Q/A manager for determining whether to merge code or not, and they most likely never yield to Linux Foundation, because why the hell would they want to let some corpo suits tell them what to do especially if they don't have the technical literacy to do the job in the first place? If corpo try to meddle with the development process of Linux Kernel into something of a hostile environment, then developers of Linux would just fork off and spin off their own version right there and then.

[–] Cube6392 1 points 1 year ago

Good to know!

[–] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rings of trust, with torvalds at center.

[–] victron@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the funny part, they exists just for show.

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Well the Foundation does employ Linus and Greg, so it's not just entirely for the show. They paychecks are real (I hope!)

[–] heeplr@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

But they can single handedly ruin even the best technical innovations.

[–] roo@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can anybody push back against the embrace?

[–] meat_popsicle@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Nobody has the fortitude to turn down a check with big numbers on it. So, no.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Be irrelevant or embraced. That are the options.

[–] federico3@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Please do now upvote techrights.org - they use hyperbolic tones and produce clickbait.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Since Microsoft basically sponsors them I wonder why this didn't happen earlier.

[–] rebul@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Once you take money from someone, you are beholden to them. Applies in business, politics, and FOSS.

[–] sentient_loom@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay somebody quickly code up a free alternative to Linux

[–] Syphist 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

GNU's Hurd was supposed to be this iirc. That clearly hasn't gotten far and hasn't been progressing quickly.

[–] YMS@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GNU Hurd development was started in 1990 as a follow-up project of another, failed GNU kernel from years before. Linus Torvalds didn't start Linux development before April 1991.

[–] Syphist 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting, I wasn't aware of the timeline. Thanks for the clarification.

[–] CookieJarObserver@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

> Be tech company...

> There is noone understanding tech left...