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[–] julianh@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ok some of these I understand but what the fuck. Why.

Edit: ok I have a theory. == checks equality without casting to any types, so they're not equal. But < and > are numeric operations, so null gets cast to 0. So <= and >= cast it to 0, and it's equal to 0, so it's true.

[–] RagingToad@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if you really want to know, but:

greater than, smaller than, will cast the type so it will be 0>0 which is false, ofcourse. 0>=0 is true.

Now == will first compare types, they are different types so it's false.

Also I'm a JavaScript Dev and if I ever see someone I work with use these kind of hacks I'm never working together with them again unless they apologize a lot and wash their dirty typing hands with.. acid? :-)

[–] mycus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

isn't === the one that compare types first?

I just tried on node and 0 == '0' returns true


found the real reason

[–] hstde@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Not a JavaScript dev here, but I work with it. Doesn't "==" do type coercion, though? Isn't that why "===" exists?

As far as I know the operators ">=" and "<=" are implemented as the negation of "<" and ">" respectively. Why: because when you are working with sticky ordered sets, like natural numbers, those operators work.

Thus "0<=0" -> "!(0>0)" -> "!(false)" -> "true"

Correct me if my thinking is wrong though.

[–] Mars 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know it’s a joke, but it’s an old one and it doesn’t make a lot of sense in this day and age.

Why are you comparing null to numbers? Shouldn’t you be assuring your values are valid first? Why are you using the “cast everything to the type you see fit and compare” operator?

Other languages would simply fail. Once more JavaScript greatest sin is not throwing an exception when you ask it to do things that don’t make sense.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shouldn’t you be assuring your values are valid first?

Step 1: Get to prod

Step 2-10: Add features

Step 11: Sell the company before it bites you

[–] Mars 3 points 1 year ago

As a professional bite-mean-for-other-guy taker (right now in Java) this hurts my feelings.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I wrote an exam about this stuff yesterday.

In J's equality is usually checked in a way that variables are casted to the type of the other one. "25" == 25 evaluates to truey because the string converted to int is equal to the int and the other way around.

You can however check if the thing is identical, using "25" == 25 which skips type conversion and would evaluate as false.

I assume the same thing happens here, null is casted to int, which gets the value 0.

[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 2 points 1 year ago

POV: you don't understand type coercion

[–] Bjoern_Tantau@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Can someone explain this? I mean, the last result. Usually I can at least understand Javascript's or PHP's quirks. But this time I'm stumped.

[–] bettse@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago
[–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This one is one of my favourite JS quirks:

JS quirk

[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait wtf is happening there?

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

parseInt is meant for strings so it converts the number there into a string. Once the numbers get small enough it starts representing it with scientific notation. So 0.0000001 converts into "1e-7" where it then starts to ignore the e-7 part because that's not a valid int, so it is left with 1

https://javascript.plainenglish.io/why-parseint-0-0000001-0-8fe1aec15d8b