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If not on Wayland, what's stopping you?

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[–] communist 4 points 1 year ago

Wayland, nvidia is the only reason not to use it these days as far as i'm concerned.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

X, because honestly my screen works and don't currently need to replace the server behind it.

[–] bacteriostat@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand and X works fine for a lot od people but do remember the number of developers maintaining it have been dropping year on year. No harm in trying IMO. If you are on Plasma or Gnome, you get a simple switcher on the login screen.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I know X is really showing its age.

I have to add that the switcher is not on Debian 12 by default, where Wayland support for Plasma is optional in plasma-workspace-wayland. Also, it is broken on Nvidia due to missing packages/libraries and Nvidia's proprietary driver still in general not supporting Wayland properly.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

X because when I try selecting Wayland from sddm the screen goes black and then takes me back to sddm. I'm on manjaro and I've done no configuration and I've not attempted to install Wayland I just assume because it's an option in my drop down that it's been installed.

[–] dylanchapell@kolektiva.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Fizz @bacteriostat @kde On my arch install, I had to install plasma-wayland-session to make that option work.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

I had plasma-wayland-session already installed. It turns out I needed to add nvidia-drm to the kernal params and forced GBM backend. After that it seems to be working. I am a wayland man now!

[–] fabhian_arkantos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

If not on Wayland, what's stopping you?

NVIDIA :(

[–] JRepin@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm on Wayland on all computers. The main pain point I have with Wayland at this moment is the lack of session save/restore (remembering which windows were open and saving their state on logout, and restoring all on login).

Wayland, I like the smooth scrolling, the touchpad gestures, and the not being unmaintained / unmaintainable aspect.

[–] indite@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Wayland, I've tried X but it just seems so much slower

[–] kotatsuyaki 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wayland on most machines, X11 on my desktop with Nvidia GPU. On all my non-Nvidia machines, Wayland works great. The screens tear less, and the gestures are more responsive.

I try out Plasma Wayland with Nvidia GPU from time to time, but last time I tried (a few months ago), there were still some showstoppers. For example:

  1. KRunner hangs and can't be opened again.
  2. Panel freezes visually.
  3. Pipewire screen sharing results in a black canvas.

The screens tear less

The screen tears?

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Despite having an nvidia card, i use wayland and deal with the glitches cause once you've gotten a taste you can't go back

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I’m on X atm. Wayland works, but it stops some configs from working properly. For example I have endeavour set up to not only notify me of updates, but I can click on the icon in the tray and it will start the update on X, where on Wayland the tray icon doesn’t show so I have to manually update my system. I like the simplistic click and go the tray icon offers me. This is just one feature I run into problems with. I don’t run NVIDIA so I don’t have the compatibility issue with that.

[–] mori@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I use Wayland and love it, but have two serious issues:

  1. Sunshine does not show a mouse cursor without a hack that kills performance.
  2. Have to disable asyc reprojection in order to use VR.
    Bonus less serious issue: I can't re-dock floating toolbars on X applications when using XWayland.
[–] mellamoessucasa@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Wayland, because I'm late enough to the party that I started with it and haven't really had any issues.

[–] missingno@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

X still. I've tested and found an additional 16ms latency on Wayland, and it's really annoying trying to do OBS Window Capture as I have to re-grant the sandbox permissions for each window every time I use it.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

X11 because what we really needed was X12 but instead we threw the baby out with the bath water.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wayland!
It has advanced a lot lately, I've been daily driving it for months now with no issues, compared to a couple of Plasma versions ago where it would break itself in 5 minutes lol.
Only thing I'm missing is a good remote access solution. I'm currently making do with Sunshine + Moonlight but it has the very annoying bug of not showing the mouse cursor.

Edit: lol just realized this post is 1 month old. Really looking forward to Lemmy fixing this bug.

[–] waspentalive@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Wayland fixed a strange blinking issue in Minecraft. So now Wayland all the time.

[–] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

X for me.

I tried Wayland a few times over the years but it was always too buggy and many applications just didn't work.

A couple of updates later, Wayland completely stopped working, all I get is a black screen and a cursor.

[–] bacteriostat@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

When was the last time you tried? And which GPU?