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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] ODGreen@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 month ago

How dare they damage the frame of an artwork and make the curators have to wipe off soup from the protective plexiglas, while leaving the artwork entirely intact?

How dare they throw easily-removed biodegradable cornstarch-based paint onto Stonehenge? Don't these monsters know Stonehenge is made of such fragile stones?

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 19 points 1 month ago

If the earth is fucked, the art won’t matter anyway. Fossil fuel companies continue to ruin the planet and expensive art is something that only the wealthiest can afford. So I view this like I do BDS: an attack on the things the wealthy need and want (money) because it’s the only attack vector available to the working class. The art is secondary to the message anyway. You don’t have to support the tactics but it helps to understand how we got here and recognize that extreme responses to extremely dire situations are going to become more commonplace as things inevitably get worse.

Also, the art has protective plexiglass over it and soup wipes off.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fuck those shitheads for vandalizing art.

If you really need attention there are plenty of expensive things without cultural value to future generations.

[–] platoose@feddit.uk 37 points 1 month ago

the art in question was not damaged

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 14 points 1 month ago

fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you

Why do you care more about a painting frame and disrupting a day at the gallery than the likely prospect of entire fucking inhabited islands being submerged? Will you hide in an art gallery when millions of refugees are pounding at your door demanding the entirely reasonable right to resettle in the less ravaged land of the climate ravagers?

What have you done to try target oil execs? How much money have you put on the line paying the legal fees of people that target them? Have you risked your safety and freedom in radical protests?

From what position do you criticise them? What do you see as the likely outcome of the future? Do you see people living like you changing that?

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Didn't know plexiglass had so much cultural value.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Art isn't going to matter if noone is alive to look at it.

[–] Iapar@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

At this point destroy the paintings for real. Not to demonstrate against oil or climate stuff but to demonstrate against the sentencing. Not "just stop oil" but "stop unjust jail time"

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right. They got off lightly