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Jeremy Corbyn addresses meeting on formation of new leftwing party (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] rhys@lemmy.rhys.wtf 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

After Left Unity, Breakthrough, Peace and Justice, Social Justice Party, and Transform, I'm sure this one will work out.

More seriously, I'm glad they're pursuing this. Everyone involved will be happier representing their views more authentically and Labour will be better off while freed from their influence, while the electorate will be presented a wider range of choices — and I suppose it's possible they won't make a pig's ear of it and that the two-ish party rigidity of our system could be broken, serving our democracy for the better.

Looks like a win-win-win-win to me.

[–] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All it means is that the left's vote gets split and conservatives get back into power

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, we need electoral reform first 🙁

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

If only Labour hadn't rallied against it.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's what they say on American subs too lol

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Because it is also true there. Any nation with fptp voting will push towards a 2 party system.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

I suppose it’s possible they won’t make a pig’s ear of it and that the two-ish party rigidity of our system could be broken

It will only be broken when voters work together to ensure it.

The left as a whole are too willing to divide the vote. So fptp harms us more than the right, as empathy and emotion is a lower effect on their voting intentions. (I am in no way saying PR would end the right, just increase the power of the left to match actual vote share. )

So the only possible way w can change FPTP if for the left to agree voting reform is the primary importance. Everything else must take a back seat to this. And even then it would take a few parliaments before the effect was powerful enough.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 13 points 1 week ago

If Britain had proportional representation, they’d have a chance of being the leftmost party in left-of-centre coalitions alongside Labour and the Green Party (sort of like Die Linke in Germany or Vänsterpartiet in Sweden), or any least harrying a Labour-LibDem-Green-SNP-Plaid coalition from the left. Though under FPTP, they have a snowball’s chance in Hell, and are likely to serve as motivation for Labour to rule out electoral reform.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i'd love an actual labour but sadly until election reform it's not going to mean anything. we we need is just a left wing pact between independents, labour back benchers, ~~the snp~~ though let's face it they're going further to the right than labour these days, pc, sinn fein, and the greens.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Isn't this the guy that lost two elections and was sympathetic to terrorists