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I recently spent some time with the Framework 13 laptop, evaluating it with the new Intel Core Ultra 7 processor and the AMD Ryzen 7 7480U. It felt like the perfect opportunity to test how a handful of games ran on Windows 11 and Fedora 40. I was genuinely surprised by the results!

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The Framework 13 is perfectly capable of gaming even with its integrated graphics, provided you’re willing to compromise by lowering the resolution and quality presets for more demanding games. (It’s also a testament to how far AMD’s APUs have come in the past decade.)

Summary of results:

  • Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Linux wins
  • Total War: Warhammer III: Windows wins
  • Cyberpunk 2077: Linux wins
  • Forza Horizon 5: Windows wins

These results are an interesting slice of the Linux vs Windows gaming picture, but certainly not representative of the entire landscape. A few shorts years ago, however, I never would have dreamed I’d be writing an article where even two games on Linux are outperforming their Windows counterparts.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 95 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

sometimes i still can't believe i'm running every game i want on linux. like its still surprising and surreal to me.

thanks to all the contributors that made it possible for us to ditch microsoft.

[–] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Hey genuine question what does everyone use for office apps these days? I'm extremely over being charged a yearly fee to use word and excel

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 6 points 1 month ago

I've been trying OnlyOffice recently - seems pretty nice so far.

[–] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago

In addition to LibreOffice I often use standalone tools.

If I want a high quality document, I use LaTeX. Same for presentation slides. However, writing stuff in LaTeX is only worth the effort if the quality is needed. For non-important stuff I just use LibreOffice.

For calculations it depends on what I want to have in the end. If I just want to play with the data a bit, then LibreOffice Calc it is. However, if it is for something serious, I tend to write script files, or even full programs, that do the processing. That way computation and data is in separate files, and the used formulas are clearly visible and easy to debug.

[–] lenathaw@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Unpopular opinion but I just use Google Sheets instead, because most of my spreadsheet usage is due to work and my employer uses Google Workplace

@Lemonparty
Collabora Office, tied into an instance of nextcloud. So essentially like the Google office suite but self hosted. Then Libre office if I need to do anything offline.
@umbrella

[–] festus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I pay for the Softmaker Office suite, it's pretty good and has Linux native versions.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 5 points 1 month ago

I felt the same way, after dual booting linux and windows for a while, I stopped booting into windows so decided to just wipe both drives and do a raid0 install of linux. Finally I got to messing with games expecting to have to tweak settings and everything but nope it just booted up. even better running on raid0 now I dont even see load screens with games like starfield.

[–] Nithanim@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One I quickly gave up on trying recently was Star Citizen. Failing myself with dumb errors I found out that you need to follow a rather elaborate tutorial. I decided that it was very much not worth it. Not sure how it is possible to fuck it up that badly.

The other I am bummed about is Talos Principle 2. Last time I played at release it worked perfectly. Now it runs so slow that it takes like 10 minutes to even get to the main menu. In the realm of tens of seconds per frame and I am at a loss how to even debug that.

One dumb thing for native (!) Unity games (at least Valheim and Shapez 2) is that they disrespect the default audio output device.

Otherwise, plug and play. It's so nice!

[–] barinzaya@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've run Star Citizen on Linux a few times (not a regular player), there was a Lutris configuration that Just Worked™ for me. There's also the Linux Users Group for SC, which maintains some scripts for working around issues if you want to do things manually. They're the ones maintaining the Lutris configuration too.

I did run into the same issue with Shapez 2 recently, though! A quick stop in qpwgraph to connect it to the right audio output and everything else about it worked perfectly, but it's not a permanent fix.

[–] cron@feddit.org 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When I started using linux 15 years ago, my friend recommended to keep a windows partition for gaming. At least for me, I have deleted windows a few years ago and I'm not looking back.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 12 points 1 month ago

My gaming PC was the last one I had running Windows. I couldn't take it anymore and this year I switched that one too.

Now if only I could run (my perfectly legal copy of) SOLIDWORKS decently, it'd be great.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's just easier to get old windows games running on Linux.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

For some reason I just can't get warcraft 3 and StarCraft 1 running through wine

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Suprised that forbes is reporting about linux

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's their community blog. This specific person has been writing there about Linux gaming for a long time now.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

ah alright, thank you

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

I'm more surprised by the ease of use than the performance, honestly.

[–] GoOnASteamTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Aw, I can't get cyberpunk to run on my mint install - it gets the logos and stops responding.

Some people read about performance, sometimes I'm just motivated knowing someone on the internet did get a game running in the first instance! :)

I will say though, Baldurs Gate 3 works perfectly, as does anything else I throw at it! :)

[–] Mikelius@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cyberpunk worked out of the box for me, but senua 2 absolutely refuses to start no matter what kind of voodoo I try ("fatal error"). I seem to always be on the opposite spectrum of protondb mint users I swear.

[–] GoOnASteamTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

How odd! I must admit with cyberpunk, I was reading ProtonDB and had a "that's one fine game... why doesn't mine look like that!" Simpsons moment. 😅

[–] MXX53@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mine runs in Fedora. Are you accessing via steam?

[–] GoOnASteamTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I am indeed! I tried popping in the skip launcher commands from a few people on ProtonDB, and it seems to be rather grumpy with me 😅 I've read it could be the Phantom Liberty DLC being DRM'd, but not sure :)

[–] MXX53@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Oh that might be possible. I do not have the DLC which could do it. I run it on Proton 9 and it seems fine.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You could test that by disabling the DLC temporarily. Click on the game in your list and scroll down on the game page until you see the DLC widget on the right side. Click "manage my DLC" and uncheck Phantom Liberty. Then run the game. You can re-enable the DLC again the same way.

[–] GoOnASteamTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you! This is going to sound daft, but I had forgotten steam allows you to uncheck DLC like that! :) it's so rare that I'd opt-out (in fact this might be the only time I have needed to!) :) thank you again

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I'm gonna get specific here, but show me WoW on Linux or GTFO. It's the only game I really play (wz2100 and zero-k too but no more shooters), and while I'm just a casual scrub the old folks and the kids get together for some chatter and splatter and it's really great.

I don't want my account blocked for false-positive on the cheat detector or something, so that's really my blocker for going fedora on the desktop.

Edit: -18? Guess us casual wow people don't count? :-. I just wanna ride dragons, man.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WoW has been running well on Linux since before Proton existed. Here's the WineHQ application page for it: https://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922

[–] russjr08@bitforged.space 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, blizzard games have pretty much always worked for me on Linux, they were among the first games to "just work" on Linux without a lot of hassle for me.

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 5 points 1 month ago

I remember Overwatch was one of the first DirectX 11 games to run really well when DXVK was new too.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 14 points 1 month ago

Like everyone else is saying, WoW ran just fine for me on linux. So I guess you're a fedora user now.

[–] ulkesh 9 points 1 month ago

Okay, challenge accepted.

I removed Windows from my machine and have been playing WoW on Garuda Linux since April. I installed via Lutris and use GE-proton with umu-launcher (simply using GE-Proton within latest Lutris uses umu) and it works every time without fail.

First, for WoW there is no separate cheat detector that somehow figures out “oh they’re on Linux, we must ban them”.

Second, WoW plays considerably better on Linux for me (based on the framerates I’m seeing in various locations in Azeroth). Granted, I decided to dump NVIDIA so I didn’t have to deal with their closed platform garbage.

Lastly, yes, anti-cheat is an issue, but not because of you running Linux — it’s because of game companies fundamentally misunderstanding operating systems. There is no easier method of cheating on Linux than there is on Windows especially if the game company properly supports Linux. So if a company were to ban you, either you are doing something ban-worthy (and running Linux objectively is not), or the company is garbage because they don’t understand what they’re doing.

I have seen no evidence to support Blizzard banning people for playing WoW on Linux. Show me a preponderance of evidence of this that isn’t possibly some other ban-worthy issue, and I will happily change my mind.

[–] rescue_toaster@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I've been running wow on linux via lutris since BFA.

[–] tarsisurdi@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 month ago

If only we had a fix for the crazy performance discrepancy that pops up when running DX12 + RTX titles!

A1RM4X - DirectX 12 and ray tracing are broken on Linux? Wukong benchmarks results - Windows vs Linux

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Btw, anyone got the newest reshade to work? Even with the reshade-linux script, they just don't load, no matter which game. I had 4.something working for the longest time but since 5, nothing.

[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I just wish many of the multiplayer games I play worked on Linux (invasive anti-cheat).